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EPISODE · Aug 4, 2026 · 56 MIN

How Do You Listen to Your Customers Without Letting Them Run Your Business?

from Would Recommend: Real Stories From Businesses Worth Talking About with Nikki McKnight

WorkPlay Branding started in 2019 as a six-step signature branding process with a photo shoot bolted on at the end. Today it's a subscription content model with almost one hundred certified creators across four continents, and it got there because Lyrik Fryer refused to stop listening to her customers, and refused to let them pull her off her mission. Nikki sits down with Lyrik to get into how a founder holds both of those disciplines at once, and what it looks like when you turn instinct into a system your team can actually run without you.What you'll hear in this episode:The North Star discipline that lets Lyrik rebuild the business every few years without ever changing the mission, and why setting expectations up front is the tool that protects both the client and the businessWhat happened when she hired her first creator and discovered that "I can just take a beautiful photo" is not a training program, and how her team turned that failure into a certification process with over one hundred KPIsThe one Workplay KPI she named that will change how you look at every branded photo you've ever taken (hint: check the feet, but not in a weird way!)How she thinks about being a visionary five years ahead of her customers and meeting them exactly where they are today, at the same time, without breaking either promiseIf your clients keep asking you for more than what you sell, and you can't tell whether that's an opportunity or a warning sign, this is the episode you needed.About My Guest:Lyrik Fryer has spent the last several years building creative systems that don't just make brands look good; they make them unforgettable.As the co-founder of WorkPlay Branding, Lyrik helped pioneer a new model for visual marketing, blending psychology-driven strategy with high-impact content creation.WorkPlay's work has powered million-dollar launches, supported entrepreneurs and companies across North America and Europe, and even landed on billboards in Times Square.Today, WorkPlay is scaling its proven visual marketing system into a tech-enabled platform, making it easier than ever for brands to access certified, brand-ready creators and strategic storytelling support at scale.The mission is simple: to give visionary brands a faster, smarter way to scale storytelling, without sacrificing quality, creativity, or control.Beyond building WorkPlay, Lyrik is passionate about empowering the next generation of creators, shaping the future of brand content, and helping businesses harness the full power of visual storytelling to drive real results.Website: https://workplaybranding.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/workplaybranding/Connect with Nikki on Instagram: instagram.com/iamnikkimck The Would Recommend Standard is a free guide to the five principles behind businesses people can't stop talking about. Grab it here: theopsshop.biz/wouldrecommend-standard A Spark Session is a 90-minute strategy session where you and Nikki dig into your client experience and figure out exactly where it's working and where it isn't. Book yours here: theopsshop.biz/sparksession 

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WorkPlay Branding started in 2019 as a six-step signature branding process with a photo shoot bolted on at the end. Today it's a subscription content model with almost one hundred certified creators across four continents, and it got there because Lyrik Fryer refused to stop listening to her customers, and refused to let them pull her off her mission. Nikki sits down with Lyrik to get into how a founder holds both of those disciplines at once, and what it looks like when you turn instin...

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