How do you prove the value of L&D in a business that sees it as a cost, not a driver of performance? With Jade Rogers

In this episode, Brigid sits down with Jade Rogers to unpack how learning and development leaders can build influence, demonstrate impact, and secure a more strategic role within their organisations.Jade, an L&D professional in a tech consultancy, describes her role as “the bridge between potential and performance” - but like many in the field, she’s had to navigate the challenge of making that value visible.Together, they explore practical ways to reposition L&D - from using storytelling to demonstrate ROI, to speaking the language of senior leaders and aligning more closely with business goals.They also go deeper into the realities of organisational change. Jade shares her experience navigating multiple rounds of redundancies—what it does to culture, trust, and morale - and how L&D professionals can support others while managing their own resilience.If you’re trying to increase your influence, communicate your value more effectively, or navigate uncertainty in your organisation, this episode will give you practical ways to move forward.Episode breakdown:(00:00) From youth work to L&D(02:30) Why L&D is misunderstood(04:30) Storytelling as ROI(06:30) The link between L&D and culture(08:00) Why L&D is at risk during redundancies(10:00) Speaking the language of leadership(12:00) Progress over perfection(14:00) The emotional impact of change(17:00) Rebuilding trust and culture(20:00) Meeting people where they are(22:00) Turning insight into action(25:00) Building resilience at work(28:00) Communicating your value🔗 Connect with JadeLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaderogers/📮 The Assembly DebriefA short, practical email unpacking the best ideas from each episode—designed for modern learning leaders who want insight without the noise.https://www.assembleyou.com/newsletter👋 Come and connect with usWe’re always keen to hear what’s resonating or what you’re seeing in your world.Adam Lacey – https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamlacey/Richard Ward – https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardpward/More from The AssemblyLearning that feels more like great content than training—explore podcast-style lessons, video shorts, and series designed for real work.https://www.assembleyou.com/Privacy & DataThis podcast is hosted by Transistor. For more information on how your data is handled, please visit: https://transistor.fm/privacy/