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EPISODE · Jun 10, 2026 · 9 MIN

How Employees Leave Says More About Your Culture Than How They’re Hired

from SHRM Talent 2026 · host WRKdefined Podcast Network

Most companies spend years perfecting recruiting and almost no time thinking about offboarding. Sarah Rodehorst argues that’s a massive mistake. The way employees leave a company can strengthen your employer brand or quietly destroy it from the inside out. Culture isn’t measured during the good times. It’s revealed during the hard ones. Talent management, employer brand, employee experience, retention, offboarding, AI adoption. This conversation explores the overlooked side of the employee lifecycle. In this episode…Sarah shares why talent management should include how employees leave, why employer brand has become one of recruiting’s toughest challenges, and why AI should always start with a business problem instead of a technology obsession. Sharp discussion on retention, culture, recruiting, employee experience, and HR technology. Key Takeaways :  • Sarah believes talent management includes the entire employee lifecycle, including how employees leave a company  • Many organizations invest heavily in hiring and development while ignoring offboarding and alumni relationships  • Employee exits directly impact employer brand, referrals, and future boomerang hires  • How employees are treated during difficult transitions often reveals the true culture of an organization  • Sarah argues culture is easy to demonstrate during good times but is truly tested during difficult moments  • One of the most important organizational success metrics is retaining the talent you genuinely want to keep  • Respectful departures help former employees carry a positive perception of the brand into future opportunities  • Employer brand has become significantly more important because candidates now have instant access to reviews, social media, and company reputation data  • A single viral post or negative employee experience can influence how candidates evaluate a company  • Candidates increasingly evaluate whether a company will invest in their growth and long-term development before accepting an offer  • Sarah describes herself as a “social introvert” who recharges through long walks in nature rather than constant social interaction  • She spends roughly an hour each day walking her dogs as part of her recharge routine  • Sarah’s grandmother is 108 years old and still lives independently, while her grandfather lived to 98  • AI adoption succeeds when organizations focus on solving business problems instead of implementing AI for its own sake  • Sarah believes companies should start with the problem, then determine whether AI is the right solution  • The ultimate goal of AI is outcomes, not checking a box that says the company is using AI  Guest : Sarah Rodehorst CEO and Co-Founder of Upwards HR, helping organizations improve employee experiences across the full talent lifecycle through HR technology, workforce strategy, compliance expertise, and people-first leadership. LinkedIN : https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahrodehorst/ Connect with Us :  William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/ Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/ WRKdefined :  Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/

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