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EPISODE · Jun 18, 2026 · 1H

How Hard Conversations Can Transform Your Life: Lisa Boucher on HR, Leadership and Owning Your Worth

from The TrueIcon Podcast · host TrueIcon

She got the corner office. Wore the power suit. And walked away.In this episode, Jen sits down with Lisa Boucher, HR consultant, career coach, and 6th-degree Taekwondo Black Belt with over two decades in HR. They get into why avoiding hard conversations is actually the unkind choice, how the stories we make up in our heads are almost always wrong, and what self-advocacy really looks like when you are scared to use your voice.If you have ever held back, stayed too long in the wrong room, or wondered if being direct makes you difficult, this one will change how you think about that.Subscribe, rate, and leave a review. And if someone needs to hear this, share it.Connect with Lisa:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisa_rosati_boucherLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisamboucherFacebook: https://facebook.com/LisaBoucherMentorCoachConnect with Jen and TrueIcon:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beatrueiconWebsite: https://www.beatrueicon.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferdegroff/CHAPTERS00:00 Welcome and intro03:03 The temper she had to unlearn08:12 What happens when you stop self-advocating21:42 The ripple effect of one conversation34:19 Redefining what success actually looks like36:22 The fear and freedom of going out on your own53:53 Staying true to your values in real life59:37 One last thing: have more fun#beatrueicon #staytrueandboldlygrow #hardconversations #hrtips

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