EPISODE · Jun 8, 2026 · 48 MIN
How McKinsey is OUTLEARNING COMPETITION by Pivoting from Training to Developmental Ecosystems with Heather Stefanski - ENG
from GOOD MORNING L&D · host Forever Day One
What does it actually mean to make learning a competitive advantage? 80% of learning happens in the flow of work — yet most L&D teams spend 80% of their time on formal programs that cover just 10% of firm-wide learning. That's the inversion that changes everything.That's what I'm digging into in this episode of GOOD MORNING L&D.My guest: 🌀 Heather Stefanski, Chief Learning Officer & Head of People, Data & Analytics at McKinsey & CompanyShe leads a global team of 400 learning professionals and has built living proof of what it looks like when L&D moves from the sidelines to the center of business strategy.We talk about: – Why the real shift isn't from classroom to digital — it's from training delivery to architecting a development ecosystem – What agentic learning actually means: how McKinsey uses AI to deliver learning support at the exact moment it's needed, contextualized and situational – Why apprenticeship only works as culture — measured, embedded in rituals, and valued in the review system – Why AI literacy and leadership development must be taught as one integrated capability, not two parallel programs – The puddles approach: how to start small, prove value, and connect wins over time — without waiting for the big transformationHost: Moritz Ettl – Founder Forever Day One https://www.linkedin.com/in/moritzettl/Guest: Heather Stefanski https://www.linkedin.com/in/heatherstefanski/More from GOOD MORNING L&D: Website: https://foreverday.one/masterclasses/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@4ed1-Distribution: Forever Day One Editorial & Production: Tanja Kamp
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