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EPISODE · Sep 26, 2026 · 10 MIN

How Microsoft Stopped Measuring Code Churn

from The Software Engineering Podcast with Fexingo: Code, Architecture, and Engineering Best Practices · host Fexingo

Microsoft Engineering VP Scott Guthrie revealed that the company stopped tracking lines of code and pull request counts years ago, finding they incentivized the wrong behaviors. In this episode, Lucas and Luna explore why measuring developer productivity by output volume creates perverse incentives, how Microsoft shifted to outcome-based metrics like deployment frequency and lead time, and what other engineering leaders can learn from their decision to abandon vanity metrics. We discuss the psychology of metric-driven management and how to build a culture where engineers feel trusted rather than watched. #MicrosoftEngineering #DeveloperProductivity #ScottGuthrie #CodeChurn #SoftwareMetrics #EngineeringCulture #TechLeadership #DevOps #PullRequests #LinesOfCode #OutcomeBasedMetrics #EngineeringManagement #FexingoBusiness #BusinessPodcast #TechIndustry #SoftwareDevelopment #AgileMethodology #TeamPerformance Keep every episode free: buymeacoffee.com/fexingo

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