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EPISODE · Apr 23, 2026 · 1H 7M

How Narcissistic Traits Show Up in Leaders (And Why It Matters) - Kathleen Saxton

from The Courageous Leaders Podcast · host Joanna Howes

What if the way you understand people is incomplete?In this episode of The Courageous Leaders Podcast, I am joined by Kathleen Saxton, Psychotherapist, Executive Coach, and Best-Selling Author, to explore the psychology behind behaviour, leadership, and one of the most misunderstood traits, narcissism.This conversation goes beyond labels.From how narcissism actually shows up in men and women, to identity, emotional patterns, and leadership blind spots, this episode challenges how we interpret people, power, and performance.Because often, what we think is happening is not the full picture.If you want to better understand human behaviour, navigate complex personalities, and become more self-aware as a leader, this episode will shift your perspective.What We Cover:00:00 – Trailer02:00 – The Courage to Walk Away from Toxic Situations04:10 – Why People Stay in Toxic Jobs & Relationships07:30 – Trauma, Therapy & Personal Backstory10:15 – Narcissistic Relationships & Validation Trap12:00 – What Narcissism Really Looks Like14:10 – Narcissism: Traits vs Personality Disorder18:00 – How Narcissists Manipulate & Control You21:10 – The Dark Triad Explained22:30 – Why Narcissists Become Leaders26:15 – Why Companies Protect Toxic High Performers31:40 – How to Handle a Narcissistic Boss43:20 – Covert vs Grandiose Narcissists47:10 – Can Narcissists Change?50:10 – Are Narcissists Good Leaders?58:00 – Character vs Performance in Leadership01:05:00 – Final Advice: Protect Yourself & Your IntegrityThis is not just about understanding others.It is about understanding how you lead and show up.👍 Stay inspired by joining our YouTube community! Click the link, hit the subscribe button, leave a comment, and never miss an episode. Your support helps us empower courageous leaders like you!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2kZ-x8fDHKEVb222qpQ_NQ🚀 Elevate Your Leadership:Book a call for transformative leadership and team coaching:Website: https://thechangecreators.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannahowes/ → Join our newsletter for courageous leadership insights and advice. 👉 Subscribe here: https://the-change-creators.kit.com/1a5f3c9e54

What if the way you understand people is incomplete? In this episode of The Courageous Leaders Podcast, I am joined by Kathleen Saxton, Psychotherapist, Executive Coach, and Best-Selling Author, to explore the psychology behind behaviour, leadership, and one of the most misunderstood traits, narcissism. This conversation goes beyond labels. From how narcissism actually shows up in men and women, to identity, emotional patterns, and leadership blind spots, this episode challenges how we int...

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