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EPISODE · May 1, 2024 · 24 MIN

How Not to be a Butt-Hole in Real Life and on the Page

from Dogs Are Smarter Than People: Writing Life, Marriage and Motivation · host Carrie Jones and Shaun Farrar

So building a sympathetic character on the page is a lot like being a sympathetic character in real life. This sympathetic character is basically the opposite of a butt-hole. There’s this great post on the SocialSelf blog that talks about what makes people likable and what keeps people from being likeable. And writers can learn from this, really. The big things that make people likeable in real life are like a top ten list of awesome: Be funny Be a good listener Don’t judge Be authentic Be warm and friendly immediately Show people that you like them Smile Be humble, but also confident Keep your promises Know people’s names Ask questions that aren’t yes or no answers. They even have a bar graph about it. When we’re writing, it’s hard to make a character listen to the reader or make eye contact with the reader, which scores high, but we can show them listening to other people, being kind to other characters instead of being all self-self-self and me-me-me all the time. And you can make the character funny if that’s who they are.  If you think back to ancient Buffy the Vampire Slayer shows, the characters were a bit much sometimes, right? Buffy especially, but they became likeable and fun because they were funny and they tried super hard to keep their promises and be there for each other. But just as importantly, that blog has ways that people sabotage their likability in real life. What are those ways? Humble bragging Name dropping Gossiping Oversharing on social media Now, for a book character, humble bragging and gossiping can happen in dialogue and be annoying and off-putting. But oversharing can happen, too, in a first-person narrative, right? You can tell too much, so much, that it feels like the action isn’t happening and that will distance the reader. When it comes to keeping those unlikable aspects off that page, it gets a little bit trickier because you have to keep the reader interested enough in what happens to the character to keep reading. That's all about likability. This is why I talk about those super objectives and desire lines a lot. If you can give your character a yearning/a goal in each scene and chapter (sometimes it’s more pronounced that other times), then the reader will wonder if the character will get it. This helps to get the reader involved and gives you a little more time to build up the connection with the character. That's because the readers want to know what happens and if the character will get their goal/yearning/want. That gives you more time to make them care about the character. But to make them really care about what happens, you have to make them care about the character and to do that, it can help to let the reader see the character’s wound, that defect, that thing that haunts them. You want to see them in a moment of weakness or vulnerability or loneliness. DOG TIP FOR LIFE Smelling buttholes is great but you don't want to be one! - Mr. Murphy quote of the day. PLACE TO SUBMIT BLUE LYNZ PRIZE FOR POETRY The annual Blue Lynx Prize for Poetry awards $2000 plus publication for a full-length poetry collection. The Prize is awarded for an unpublished, full-length volume of poems by a U.S. author, which includes foreign nationals living and writing in the U.S. and U.S. citizens living abroad. Lynx House Press has been publishing fine poetry and prose since 1975. Our titles are distributed by the University of Washington Press. Top Prize: $2,000 Additional prizes: Publication Entry fee: $28 Deadline: June 16, 2024 COOL EXERCISE FOR WRITERS Write a "slice of life" moment for your character. Make them have a sit-down dinner with others and show: What they want What has hurt them in the past Them being kind Do not show any of it via internal monologue. LINK TO OUR RANDOM THOUGHT Our random thoughts are at the beginning of the podcast and not transcribed. SHOUT OUT! The music we’ve clipped and shortened in this podcast is awesome and is made available through the Creative Commons License.  Here’s a link to that and the artist’s website. Who is this artist and what is this song?  It’s “Summer Spliff” by Broke For Free. WE HAVE EXTRA CONTENT ALL ABOUT LIVING HAPPY OVER HERE! It's pretty awesome. We have a podcast, LOVING THE STRANGE, which we stream biweekly live on Carrie’s Facebook and Twitter and YouTube on Fridays. Her Facebook and Twitter handles are all carriejonesbooks or carriejonesbook. But she also has extra cool content focused on writing tips here. Carrie is reading one of her raw poems every once in awhile on CARRIE DOES POEMS. And there you go! Whew! That's a lot! Subscribe

So building a sympathetic character on the page is a lot like being a sympathetic character in real life. This sympathetic character is basically the opposite of a butt-hole. There’s this great post on the SocialSelf blog that talks about what makes people likable and what keeps people from being likeable. And writers can learn from this, really. The big things that make people likeable in real life are like a top ten list of awesome: Be funny Be a good listener Don’t judge Be authentic Be warm and friendly immediately Show people that you like them Smile Be humble, but also confident Keep your promises Know people’s names Ask questions that aren’t yes or no answers. They even have a bar graph about it. When we’re writing, it’s hard to make a character listen to the reader or make eye contact with the reader, which scores high, but we can show them listening to other people, being kind to other characters instead of being all self-self-self and me-me-me all the time. And you can make the character funny if that’s who they are.  If you think back to ancient Buffy the Vampire Slayer shows, the characters were a bit much sometimes, right? Buffy especially, but they became likeable and fun because they were funny and they tried super hard to keep their promises and be there for each other. But just as importantly, that blog has ways that people sabotage their likability in real life. What are those ways? Humble bragging Name dropping Gossiping Oversharing on social media Now, for a book character, humble bragging and gossiping can happen in dialogue and be annoying and off-putting. But oversharing can happen, too, in a first-person narrative, right? You can tell too much, so much, that it feels like the action isn’t happening and that will distance the reader. When it comes to keeping those unlikable aspects off that page, it gets a little bit trickier because you have to keep the reader interested enough in what happens to the character to keep reading. That's all about likability. This is why I talk about those super objectives and desire lines a lot. If you can give your character a yearning/a goal in each scene and chapter (sometimes it’s more pronounced that other times), then the reader will wonder if the character will get it. This helps to get the reader involved and gives you a little more time to build up the connection with the character. That's because the readers want to know what happens and if the character will get their goal/yearning/want. That gives you more time to make them care about the character. But to make them really care about what happens, you have to make them care about the character and to do that, it can help to let the reader see the character’s wound, that defect, that thing that haunts them. You want to see them in a moment of weakness or vulnerability or loneliness. DOG TIP FOR LIFE Smelling buttholes is great but you don't want to be one! - Mr. Murphy quote of the day. PLACE TO SUBMIT BLUE LYNZ PRIZE FOR POETRY The annual Blue Lynx Prize for Poetry awards $2000 plus publication for a full-length poetry collection. The Prize is awarded for an unpublished, full-length volume of poems by a U.S. author, which includes foreign nationals living and writing in the U.S. and U.S. citizens living abroad. Lynx House Press has been publishing fine poetry and prose since 1975. Our titles are distributed by the University of Washington Press. Top Prize: $2,000 Additional prizes: Publication Entry fee: $28 Deadline: June 16, 2024 COOL EXERCISE FOR WRITERS Write a "slice of life" moment for your character. Make them have a sit-down dinner with others and show: What they want What has hurt them in the past Them being kind Do not show any of it via internal monologue. LINK TO OUR RANDOM THOUGHT Our random thoughts are at the beginning of the podcas

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