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How Nvidia is Fighting Back Against Export Controls

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How Nvidia is Fighting Back Against Export Controls The consequences of this move may reach far beyond Nvidia’s own market share. Let’s see if Nvidia’s bet on open markets can withstand political pressure. Try AI Box: ⁠⁠https://aibox.ai AI Chat YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@JaedenSchafer Join my AI Hustle Community: https://www.skool.com/aihustle/about See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Two people were just arrested for smuggling AI chips to China, and the rumors basically point to the fact that these were NVIDIA chips. There is a whole bunch of drama. People are asking NVIDIA to put kill switches and backdoors in their chips. NVIDIA has responded.

The White House is weighing in. This is quite a crazy story and builds on a lot of press that's been going over the last few years with chip sacks and basically the quote-unquote AI race that the US says they're in with China right now. So we're going to dive into all of that on the podcast. Before we do, I wanted to mention, if you want to try any of the AI models that I talk about on the show, I'd love for you to go check out my own startup, which is AIbox.ai.

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There's a link in the description to AIbox.ai. All right, let's get into the smuggling world of AI chips. So two people were arrested. The Department of Justice in the United States has basically said that these were two Chinese nationals, and they were shipping, basically they were involved in shipping tens of millions of dollars worth of high-performance AI chips to China.

So this isn't a small amount of money. This is quite, you know, we're talking probably like $50 million of these AI chips, so a lot of money. And again, we know companies spend billions on this, so it's, I guess, not an insane amount. But what I would say is probably that these aren't the only two people in all of America that were smuggling chips or in all of the world that were smuggling chips.

There's a lot of drama in the past about Singapore being the third biggest purchaser of AI chips from NVIDIA, and NVIDIA basically saying no, and people saying, look, Singapore buys them, and that's just really shell companies smuggling them to China. That's where we take the payments from, but really we're going to other countries, and we're complying with all the rules. So there's a lot of drama to say the least around this. But this is, I think, one of the big events that has happened on U.S.

soil. So this is Chung Gang and Shi Weyang. Both of them arrested in California, and basically they, quote, unquote, violated the Export Control Reform Act. It's a felony.

It carries a statutory penalty of a maximum of 20 years in prison. They are accused of willfully shipping sensitive technologies, so basically those are GPUs to China, through California. They had their company. They had this company called ALX Solutions.

This is, you know, a very random shipping company. It doesn't seem like anything crazy. The DOJ, interestingly enough, didn't say what chips were actually being shipped, but they did say that they were shipping, quote, the most powerful chip in the market. So basically this is an NVIDIA chip.

Since NVIDIA dominates this entire market, it's kind of what they want to call it NVIDIA, maybe it'd be nice. And they said it was, quote, designed specifically for AI applications. Yeah, so basically that means that it's going to be probably NVIDIA's H100 GPUs. And routers actually reported and specifically said that that was what got shipped.

So I don't know anything else, but they're just saying the quiet part out loud. But in any case, a review of all the documents that the DOJ dropped basically showed that they had this company called ALX Solutions, and they had basically these chips and some other tech that they were using, and they were shipping between Singapore and Malaysia. They're going to Singapore and Malaysia. And again, this is kind of in line with the controversy that people have been talking about how Singapore is the third biggest purchaser of NVIDIA chips.

Or sorry, a third of NVIDIA's sales are Singapore. It's like, wow, that's a small country, a lot of GPU chips. But what's interesting was this company that was shipping to Singapore and Malaysia, they were getting their payments from Hong Kong and China. So the payments were pretty obvious.

I don't know why they wouldn't have also just rounded the payments to other countries, as this obviously made it pretty obvious where it was coming from. The DOJ also found a bunch of records and a bunch of communications that were saying that they were shipping to Malaysia to specifically go around US export restrictions. So it's pretty blatant what they were doing. I mean, I wonder why it wasn't more sophisticated than that, why it didn't go to multiple countries or I don't know, it just seems silly that they'd have Chinese companies paying them.

So anyways, whatever. This is what NVIDIA said about this whole situation. They said, this case demonstrates that smuggling is a non-starter. We primarily sell our products to well-known partners, including OEMs, who help us ensure that all sales comply with US export control rules.

Even relatively small exporters and shipments are subject to thorough review and scrutiny, and any diverted products would have no service support or updates. Okay, so NVIDIA is saying, look, this is a great example. They arrested these guys. I mean, this is probably a very crazy random example, and it got shut down.

So this isn't a thing that happens. I think in reality, there's probably a lot of these cases that go unprosecuted, that people that haven't been caught doing this. I don't think this is the only two people in all of America that were, you know, streaming tens of millions of dollars. Obviously, this is a lot of money.

But I think NVIDIA did make a good point, which is that if anything does kind of slip through the supply chain, right, gets stolen or sold on the black market, or maybe like a legit company buys a bunch and then the legit company, quote, unquote, goes bankrupt or gets acquired by someone else who now has control of the GPUs. There are a lot of ways you get control of GPUs without like having to get them directly from NVIDIA, even though NVIDIA says, you know, that they're making sure everything's legit. But NVIDIA did say that if something like that did happen, you would have no service, support, or updates, right? NVIDIA isn't going to be servicing and updating the chips that are in China, unless maybe there's some sort of VPN or some sort of way.

Like, I think there's probably ways to be pretty sneaky with this. So what is the solution? What's kind of the political landscape around this whole situation right now? I think one of the biggest things right now is that the AI action plan has just come out.

Trump recently announced this whole AI action plan. And in it, he basically says that, you know, it's really, really important that America has strong export restrictions. And so it's kind of a big thing that they have focused on. A potential solution to curbing all this smuggling that the U.S.

government suggested was to implement tracking technology into chips. So basically, you know, they're just like, look, put some tracking technology into the chips. And then I think, you know, and then you know, like, who's using them and where they're located. Chip makers are very opposed to this.

I think this kind of makes a lot of sense. NVIDIA made a blog post on Tuesday all about this specific topic. And basically in their blog post, they say, they say, quote, NVIDIA has been designing processes for over 30 years, embedding backdoors and kill switches into chips would be a gift to hackers and hostile actors. It would undermine global digital infrastructure and fracture trust in U.S.

technology. Establishing, established law wisely requires companies to fix vulnerabilities and not create them. Okay. They make a good point, but also I think they know that, like, this would completely shut it down, whereas, like, if, like, let's say 30 or 20 percent of the revenue might be seeping into China, that's kind of a huge chunk of revenue that you probably don't want to get shut off.

Now, to be fair, they did, like, revise their forecasted numbers and completely remove China. Like, look, we're not selling anything to China. You know, they're working on a deal to basically get some smaller chips shipped to China and be allowed to do that. But I think what they don't want is, like, look, we don't want to put backdoors in.

This is something that China has been criticized for, forcing companies to China to put backdoors in. And so it begins, like, look, we don't want to do that. And I think a lot of people might be like, yeah, but it's to fight against China. But I think most Americans probably don't, and American companies don't want backdoor, government backdoors into their chips from the U.S.

government either. It just seems like, you know, we already have enough of a surveillance state over here, in my opinion. But who am I? In any case, it is pretty interesting.

And they make a good point that basically it would be a vulnerability for hackers, right? You can imagine they put these backdoors in and it's all well-meaning and maybe it's just to make sure that everybody's complying with the law. Some hacker gets an exploit, which is inevitable. It's not a if, but it's a when.

And then if they were able to go and shut down all the GPUs in the world from that, like, that would be horrible and really mess up a lot of AI companies, mess up a lot of innovation. So I think NVIDIA just doesn't see a lot of pros to their own company in this. So they're pretty opposed to it. They say, that's not sound policy.

It's an overreaction that would irreparably harm America's economic and national security interests. So yeah, NVIDIA, to say the least, is not thrilled with that particular prospect. So we'll see what ends up actually happening to curb the smuggling that is happening right now. Hey, if you enjoyed the podcast today, if you learned anything new, I would really appreciate it if you could drop a rating and review wherever you get your podcast.

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