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EPISODE · Mar 24, 2026 · 35 MIN

How One Conversation Can Change Everything in Business and Life (Pat Hiban)

from The Purpose Matrix · host Phil Moeller

Pat Hiban meets a stranger while tying his shoes before a run in Chicago. That moment turns into a business partner years later. Another introduction leads to the CEO of a company he co-founded…None of it was planned, but those moments stacked. Real estate conventions. random trips. accountability partners. Each connection built into GoBundance and multiple businesses. The pattern is simple but uncomfortable: he kept putting himself in rooms where he knew no one, then followed through when something clicked.That same pattern showed up in his career decisions. Ten businesses started, eight failed, two worked.The outcomes look clean in hindsight, but the process wasn’t. Relationships determined which opportunities would last and which would collapse.The life he lives now is built on the people he chose to stay connected to decades earlier. You just never know WHO.0:00 Intro00:59 Building a Real Estate Career02:18 Team Building and the 2008 Collapse06:00 “ELF” Businesses and Repeated Failures09:12 The Origin of GoBundance12:00 Meeting Future Partners by Chance15:09 How to Build an Accountability Partner18:29 Scaling GoBundance Without a Guru Model23:41 Designing Life Around Time and Freedom25:41 The Reality of Investing Wins and Losses29:17 Success vs Fulfillment by Life PhaseResources Mentioned:GoBundancehttps://gobundance.com📚 Tribe of Millionaireshttps://tribeofmillionaires.com📚 6 Steps to 7 Figures by Pat Hiban📚 The Quitter’s Manifesto by Pat HibanFollow @PhilOnPurposehttps://www.instagram.com/philonpurposehttps://www.facebook.com/philonpurpose

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