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EPISODE · Jan 31, 2026 · 1H 15M

How Peer-to-Peer Apps Stay Free Forever (Holepunch Interview)

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Peer-to-peer networks have no servers—just devices talking directly to each other. Henry interviewed Mathias Buus Madsen, CEO of Holepunch, about how BitTorrent handled 40 million users without servers, why their messenger Keet can't go down even when usage spikes, their new P2P password manager, and how P2P apps are more energy efficient than data centers.🔗 SOURCES & LINKS• Holepunch: https://holepunch.to/• Keet Messenger: https://keet.io• Pears: https://pears.com• Pear Pass: https://pass.pears.com⏱️ TIMESTAMPS00:00:00 INTRO00:01:25 WHAT IS PEER-TO-PEER (P2P)?00:03:16 BENEFITS OF P2P00:05:38 GETTING STARTED IN P2P00:08:43 NEGATIVE P2P ASSOCIATIONS00:14:13 P2P CENSORSHIP RESISTANCE00:17:14 P2P SAFETY00:21:29 KEET (P2P MESSENGER)00:26:21 OPEN SOURCE?00:27:12 BEING SERVERLESS00:31:04 OPEN SOURCE VS. CLOSED SOURCE00:34:05 ARE UPDATES P2P?00:34:33 IS THERE AN APK?00:35:37 BACKGROUND SYNC00:39:27 WHAT ELSE DOES HOLEPUNCH WORK ON?00:42:04 MORE INFO ON THE STACK00:45:00 FUNDING + TETHER00:48:09 P2P PASSWORD MANAGER?00:54:48 AUDITS00:55:57 AVAILABLE ON LINUX?00:58:33 CENTRALIZED/HYBRID P2P?01:01:49 P2P DOWNSIDES?01:05:01 APPLE FINDMY NETWORK01:07:16 ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT01:11:48 SERVICE DOWNTIME01:12:52 HOW TO FOLLOW01:13:59 OUTRO🎥 VIDEOWatch on YouTube 🧡 SUPPORT TECHLOREKeep Techlore Talks independent & growing: ★ Support this podcast ★

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