🎙How Shannon Saccocia, the CIO of $67B AUM Neuberger Berman Private Wealth, thinks about the changing role of alternatives in client portfolios

Today’s show brings us inside the mind of a top allocator and CIO in the private wealth world.We talk with Shannon Saccocia, the CIO of Neuberger Berman Private Wealth, a division of NB that has almost $70B of assets under management. With over 24 years of experience, Shannon brings a wealth of knowledge on private markets to bear. At NB Wealth, she works closely with investment leadership to establish market views, asset allocation, and portfolio recommendations tailored specifically for NB Private Wealth clients.Prior to joining NB, she was the CIO for 5 years at SVB Private and Boston Private Wealth, which SVB acquired in July 2021. In this capacity, she oversaw all investment management functions, including portfolio construction, asset allocation, third-party manager selection, equity and fixed income portfolio management, performance and trading.Shannon and I had a fascinating conversation on the evolution of private markets and how both allocators and GPs can think about this changing landscape. We discussed:* The definition of alts and what “true alternatives” are.* The changing nature of asset allocation and why alts are such a critical part of an investors’ portfolio.* The evolution of fees and what investors should be paying for.* Why specialized managers can win.* The importance of geopolitics and macro in a world where deglobalization has an increasing impact on asset allocation.* Why secondaries are an important onramp to private markets for the HNW channel.* What it means to get comfortable with being uncomfortable as an investor.* What the institutional investor world can learn from HNW investors.Thanks Shannon for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share your thoughts and wisdom on private markets.Join over 2,700 thought leaders from top private markets firms like Blackstone, Goldman Sachs, Apollo, Ares, Fidelity, iCapital, Franklin Templeton, and more. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit altgoesmainstream.substack.com