How should governments rewire the state to get things done?

Speakers: Rt Hon Jesse Norman MP, Shadow Leader of the House of Commons Caroline Elsom, Head of Reshaping The State at Onward Eve Norridge, Head of Research at Onward Dr Hannah White, Director of the Institute for Government   This event was chaired by Alex Thomas, Programme Director at the Institute for Government.   This event was held in partnership with Onward. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices