EPISODE · Jul 10, 2025 · 54 MIN
How to balance optimization vs discovery Marketing | Libby Weissman (DoorDash, Square, Caviar)
from ExperiMENTAL Marketing | Playbooks to measure and scale Marketing ROI · host Sundar Swaminathan
Discovery vs. Optimization Marketing: Why Most Startups Get It Wrong | Libby Weissman (Caviar, DoorDash)In this episode of ExperiMENTAL, Sundar Swaminathan sits down with Libby Weissman (Caviar, Square, DoorDash) to unpack why so many startups fail to tell the difference between discovery and optimization marketing, and what it costs them.You’ll learn:✔ How to tell if you're in discovery or optimization✔ Why unrealistic CAC targets derail your growth✔ How to use experiments to build marketing conviction✔ What “price is too high” usually means✔ How to hire the right marketer for your stage✔ Real examples from healthtech, food, and servicesLibby brings structured thinking and sharp insight for early-stage B2C founders navigating growth. If you’re building in a noisy space, this is your blueprint.🎧 ExperiMENTAL is hosted by Sundar Swaminathan, Head of Data Science at Bounce and former Uber leader. This show is your behind-the-scenes look at how top marketers and data scientists make smarter decisions.🧠 Expect unfiltered conversations, mental models, and case studies that help you cut waste, build conviction, and grow your B2C business.📬 Subscribe to the ExperiMENTAL newsletter for deep dives and frameworks: https://experimental.beehiiv.com/This podcast has been brought to you by APodcastGeek. https://www.apodcastgeek.com
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Discovery vs. Optimization Marketing: Why Most Startups Get It Wrong | Libby Weissman (Caviar, DoorDash)In this episode of ExperiMENTAL, Sundar Swaminathan sits down with Libby Weissman (Caviar, Square, DoorDash) to unpack why so many startups fail to tell the difference between discovery and optimization marketing, and what it costs them.You’ll learn:✔ How to tell if you're in discovery or optimization✔ Why unrealistic CAC targets derail your growth✔ How to use experiments to build marketing conviction✔ What “price is too high” usually means✔ How to hire the right marketer for your stage✔ Real examples from healthtech, food, and servicesLibby brings structured thinking and sharp insight for early-stage B2C founders navigating growth. If you’re building in a noisy space, this is your blueprint.🎧 ExperiMENTAL is hosted by Sundar Swaminathan, Head of Data Science at Bounce and former Uber leader. This show is your behind-the-scenes look at how top marketers and data scientists make smarter decisions.🧠 Expect unfiltered conversations, mental models, and case studies that help you cut waste, build conviction, and grow your B2C business.📬 Subscribe to the ExperiMENTAL newsletter for deep dives and frameworks: https://experimental.beehiiv.com/This podcast has been brought to you by APodcastGeek. https://www.apodcastgeek.com
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How to balance optimization vs discovery Marketing | Libby Weissman (DoorDash, Square, Caviar)
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