How To Break ICE To Fix Immigration w/ fmr. ICE AD Scott Shuchart

Grant talks to Former ICE Assistant Director for policy Scott Shuchart. Scott served in both DHS as a senior advisor for civil rights during the Obama and first Trump Administrations and as the AD for policy at ICE under Joe Biden. The two talk about how far ICE and DHS have fallen from their original mission and what Tom Homan is really doing in Minneapolis. PLUS the big question, what it would mean to dismantle ICE, and why Scott says it needs to happen. LINKS: https://www.scottshuchart.com/PROMO CODES: MANTRA MATCHAIf coffee makes you alert and deeply unwell, it might be time to switch it up.Mantra Matcha offers ceremonial-grade matcha sourced from a private hillside farm in Uji, Japan. It’s smooth, naturally sweet, and delivers calm, focused energy—no jitters, no crash.Why we like it:137x more antioxidants than regular green teaSupports metabolism, focus, and overall wellnessSix superfood-infused flavors (Banana Cacao, Strawberry Lemon, Cinnamon Goji Berry, and more)Every box helps provide a meal to a child in need through No Kid Hungry Get 15% off at mantramatcha.com with code MIMS25 That code also supports Make It Make Sense with Grant Hermes with a 15% commission.Less chaos. More clarity. Two things we could all use right now. Support the showFollow along on social media SaySo: @GrantHermes X: @GrantHermesInsta: @Grant__HermesTiktok: Grant_Hermes