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EPISODE · Mar 7, 2025 · 34 MIN

How to Deal with Software Complexity • Gail Murphy & Charles Humble

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This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.https://gotopia.techRead the full transcription of this interview hereDr. Gail Murphy - Vice-President Research & Innovation & Professor of Computer Science at The University of British ColumbiaCharles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & ConsultantRESOURCESGailhttps://x.com/gail_murphyhttps://social.sigsoft.org/@gail_murphyhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gailcmurphyhttps://blogs.ubc.ca/gailcmurphyCharleshttps://bsky.app/profile/charleshumble.bsky.socialhttps://linkedin.com/in/charleshumblehttps://mastodon.social/@charleshumblehttps://conissaunce.comDESCRIPTIONCharles Humble interviews Dr. Gail Murphy about the challenges in software engineering today. They discuss how productivity isn’t just about lines of code but is more about focus and minimizing task-switching.Gail also talks about the difficulty of managing the rapid evolution of system architectures, stressing the need for regular restructuring and refactoring to avoid issues like increased coupling and decreased performance. The conversation moves to open-source development, where Gail highlights how using open-source components can create complex, brittle dependencies, and the need for better communication within these ecosystems.They wrap up by discussing the evolving role of technical leadership in navigating these challenges. [...]RECOMMENDED BOOKSHeidi Helfand • Dynamic ReteamingHeidi Helfand • How to Change Your TeamsCarl Larson & Frank M J LaFasto • TeamworkGene Kim & Steve Spear • Wiring the Winning OrganizationIchak Adizes • Managing Corporate LifecyclesHenri Lipmanowicz & Keith McCandless • The Surprising Power of Liberating StructuresMatthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team TopologiesWilliam Bridges & Susan Bridges • TransitionsBlueskyInstagramLinkedInFacebookCHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUSJoin this channel to get early access to videos & other perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/joinLooking for a unique learning experience?Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.techSUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

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This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here Dr. Gail Murphy - Vice-President Research & Innovation & Professor of Computer Science at The University of British Columbia Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant RESOURCES Gail https://x.com/gail_murphy https://social.sigsoft.org/@gail_murphy https://www.linkedin.com/in/gailcmurphy https://blogs.ubc.ca/gailcmurphy Charles...

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