How to distinguish self-attentiveness from quietness of mind?

In this episode recorded on 23rd May 2023 Michael answers the following question asked by Geetha: ----more---- “When the mind is quiet but alert, how does one ensure that one is not attending to the quiet mind but rather to the self? The difference between the two is very subtle."  This episode can also be watched as a video here and a more compressed audio copy in Opus format (which can be listened to in the VLC media player and some other apps) can be downloaded from here.