EPISODE · Nov 11, 2025 · 51 MIN
How to do AEO - Answer Engine Optimization
from The Next New Thing · host Andrew Warner
🎧 Highlights: [00:00:00] Intro – “Don’t start with SEO. Start with AEO.” [00:00:36] Why this is the right time to focus on answer engine optimization [00:01:30] Case study: Webflow drives 8% of signups from LLMs [00:03:00] Onsite vs. offsite optimization — Reddit and YouTube matter most [00:06:18] Why Help Center content outperforms traditional SEO pages [00:13:30] Why AEO is ideal for small startups without big budgets [00:16:39] “SEO is not dead” — and why Google’s share of search stays stable [00:19:39] Myths: LLM.txt, robots.txt, and how misinformation spreads [00:23:06] The scientific method for testing what actually works [00:25:57] Affiliates and citations — how paid mentions impact LLM rankings [00:27:27] How to find high-value questions to target [00:31:12] 60+ AEO tools — and the new “content scoring” era [00:35:06] How to build an AEO agency (and what services to offer) [00:39:36] Marketing Graphite — why thought leadership still wins [00:43:00] The AEO roadmap: what to do first, step by step [00:47:00] The MasterClass SEO story [00:48:18] Fires, gardens, and creative thinking in constraint SEO is changing—and the next frontier is AEO: Answer Engine Optimization.In this episode, Andrew Warner sits down with Ethan Smith, founder of Graphite, to break down how brands are already winning visibility on ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Claude — before their competitors even realize what’s happening.Ethan explains why SEO isn’t dead, but answer engines are the next big channel — and how to optimize your site, videos, and community presence so AI models actually cite your brand in their answers.
What this episode covers
🎧 Highlights: [00:00:00] Intro – “Don’t start with SEO. Start with AEO.” [00:00:36] Why this is the right time to focus on answer engine optimization [00:01:30] Case study: Webflow drives 8% of signups from LLMs [00:03:00] Onsite vs. offsite optimization — Reddit and YouTube matter most [00:06:18] Why Help Center content outperforms traditional SEO pages [00:13:30] Why AEO is ideal for small startups without big budgets [00:16:39] “SEO is not dead” — and why Google’s share of search stays stable [00:19:39] Myths: LLM.txt, robots.txt, and how misinformation spreads [00:23:06] The scientific method for testing what actually works [00:25:57] Affiliates and citations — how paid mentions impact LLM rankings [00:27:27] How to find high-value questions to target [00:31:12] 60+ AEO tools — and the new “content scoring” era [00:35:06] How to build an AEO agency (and what services to offer) [00:39:36] Marketing Graphite — why thought leadership still wins [00:43:00] The AEO roadmap: what to do first, step by step [00:47:00] The MasterClass SEO story [00:48:18] Fires, gardens, and creative thinking in constraint SEO is changing—and the next frontier is AEO: Answer Engine Optimization.In this episode, Andrew Warner sits down with Ethan Smith, founder of Graphite, to break down how brands are already winning visibility on ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Claude — before their competitors even realize what’s happening.Ethan explains why SEO isn’t dead, but answer engines are the next big channel — and how to optimize your site, videos, and community presence so AI models actually cite your brand in their answers.
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