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EPISODE · Jun 1, 2026 · 37 MIN

How To Grow Managers Into High-Performing Leaders

from Modern Leadership Solutions · host Tom DeBell

What does it actually take to grow a manager into a leader? In this episode of Lead With More, Tom DeBell sits down with bestselling author, award-winning coach, and business owner Dr. Andy Neillie for an honest, experience-driven conversation about the gap between managing tasks and truly leading people.Dr. Neillie shares his four leadership necessities — conviction, competence, character, and covenant — and explains why leadership development is a continuous journey, not a one-time certification. The conversation covers why hard conversations are the truest test of leadership character, how self-awareness is the foundation of every high-performing leader, and what Dr. Neillie calls the leader's hour: a daily habit the best leaders he's worked with consistently practice.Dr. Neillie also introduces his Manager's Ascent program and the leadership principles behind his book, The Golden Principles.Learn More About Dr. Andy Neillie and his company, The Neillie Leadership Group, here: https://neillieleadershipgroup.com/Timestamps:00:00 How to Turn Mangers Into High-Performing Leaders01:33 Why Bad Bosses Ignite a Leadership Calling03:42 Managers vs. Leaders: What's the Real Difference?04:37 The Four Leadership Necessities: Conviction, Competence, Character, and Covenant09:39 Why Leadership Is A Journey, Not a Certification09:59 The Hard Conversation That Taught Me Character12:00 Why Social Media Is Redefining Influence the Wrong Way13:16 The 5% of Decisions That Separate Real Leaders15:41 How Strong Leaders Delegate What They Don't Know16:53 The Golden Principles: Leadership Lessons From Rescue Dogs20:06 The Redford Principle: Meet People Where They Are22:22 Why Character Is Missing In Today's Leaders25:04 How Great Leaders Keep Growing After Every Failure28:09 Why Reading Isn't Enough: The Case for Leadership Coaching29:15 Inside the Manager's Ascent Program31:12 Real-World Experience vs. Certified on Paper32:14 When Coaching Reveals Someone Isn't Ready to Lead35:27 The Leader's Hour: How the Best Leaders Start Their Day⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻Tom DeBell, the founder and president of Modern Leadership Solutions, is a Certified Maxwell Coach/Speaker/Trainer, a Full Focus Certified Pro, and a Certified Facilitator in the Six Types of Working Genius.https://www.modernleadershipsolutions.com⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻Podcast guests managed through PodMatch. If you’re a podcast guest or host (or both!), I would encourage you to check it out: https://www.podmatch.com/member/tomdebell (affiliate link).#PodMatch⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻MUSIC & MEDIA⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻⎻With permission from:Music by HitsLab (https://www.youtube.com/@hitslabmusic)from Pixabay (https://pixabay.com/)

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