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EPISODE · Apr 20, 2026 · 23 MIN

How to Make the Best Cookie Even Better

from All Of It with Alison Stewart · host WNYC

Among the most popular baked goods is the classic chocolate chip cookie. One of the things that makes it so special is how beautifully it lends itself to adaptation. Journalist, baker and podcast host Marissa Rothkopf Bates shares insights from her cookbook, The Secret Life of Chocolate Chip Cookies. She'll discuss the cookie's often misunderstood history, how to bake the type of chocolate chip cookie you want, and how she mixes politics with baking in her podcast. Staff photo by Ben McCanna/Portland Press Herald via Getty Images Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Among the most popular baked goods is the classic chocolate chip cookie. One of the things that makes it so special is how beautifully it lends itself to adaptation. Journalist, baker and podcast host Marissa Rothkopf Bates shares insights from her...

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