How to Manage Humans 🎽 — with Rands

Today's guest is Michael Lopp, better known as Rands, who is Senior Director of Engineering at Apple and writer of several popular books about engineering management, including "Managing Humans", which is a personal favorite of mine.With Rands, we discuss his journey into writing and the impact it had on his personal and professional growth. We reflected on his leadership style and the complexities of modern engineering management.01:07 Introduction02:49 Rands first steps in writing06:06 Sponsor07:46 Does writing help in managing?13:05 Michael and Rands15:29 Managing humans and chaos19:56 Mentoring fresh managers21:31 Rands' managing style28:27 Feedbacks30:25 Changes in engineering management33:43 AI: a future without layers40:10 Testing a thesis42:40 AI Interation = People Interation45:07 What is not going to change48:38 The 10%—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: [email protected]