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EPISODE · Feb 26, 2026 · 55 MIN

How to Overcome Fear and Find Success

from The GaryVee Audio Experience · host Gary Vaynerchuk

In this episode of the GaryVee Audio Experience, I sit down with Channing and Ryan Clark from the Pivot podcast to discuss how to navigate a world weaponized by fear. I share my perspective on why impatience for success is often rooted in insecurity and how true winning requires discipline and patience, comparing it to throwing a football on an opening drive. We also dive into the truth about AI, the secret to separating self-worth from business success, and why I’m buying Bitcoin while it’s crashing. You’ll learn:Why I believe starting a new venture with "no" means it's "over"My honest take on the overrated aspects of success, including the lack of privacyWhy I am not scared of AI and how I believe it will revolutionize medicineWhy I believe kids are "getting grown too late" and the importance of full accountability by age 25The three foundational principles I use to build a brand: Curiosity, Discipline and Patience, and Perspective.The only thing in life I am truly scared of

In this episode of the GaryVee Audio Experience, I sit down with Channing and Ryan Clark from the Pivot podcast to discuss how to navigate a world weaponized by fear. I share my perspective on why impatience for success is often rooted in insecurity and how true winning requires discipline and patience, comparing it to throwing a football on an opening drive. We also dive into the truth about AI, the secret to separating self-worth from business success, and why I’m buying Bitcoin while it’s crashing. You’ll learn:Why I believe starting a new venture with "no" means it's "over"My honest take on the overrated aspects of success, including the lack of privacyWhy I am not scared of AI and how I believe it will revolutionize medicineWhy I believe kids are "getting grown too late" and the importance of full accountability by age 25The three foundational principles I use to build a brand: Curiosity, Discipline and Patience, and Perspective.The only thing in life I am truly scared of

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Everyone is scared about AI and mad about the work stuff. Wait until people realize what AI is going to do to medicine. Yeah, you might lose a job, you'll get another one. But when your daughter lives to save your mom's life because of AI medicine, and she wouldn't have without it, I think you're going to have a different take on AI.

This is the Gary Vee Audio Experience. You're able to know I'm trying to get this thing, I'm trying to move this needle this way, but I need to be patient to allow that to happen through my consistency. Because I want to win. You know, I love talking to athletes and you know how much love I have for all of you in the professional athlete community.

Men, is it a good idea in professional football to throw 45-yard bombs on every play on your opening drive? You're going to pick the ball off in a second play. I just don't understand how people understand. How am I so patient?

I have no choice. Like, when you are trying to make it happen quick, often it's because you're insecure. You know this, a lot of us came up different but in similar ways. People want it so fast because they want to close the gap of their insecurity.

I want to make a quick money because I want to buy that watch, I want to have that car, that let me get the girl, and then you all be like, you did it. When you're not doing it for anybody but yourself, it's slow. I've never been out here ever, and I'm talking like middle school, where peer pressure was a currency. I never compromised on how I was raised, like in high school in Jersey in the 80s and 90s, like you had to be like a jerk to like get to that next level.

I was just not willing to pick on kids or make fun of some kid that we used to know how school went. I was boys with this kid in fourth grade, but now the eighth grade's got a different system. I'm not going to shit on him for popularity. If I wasn't doing that in school, I'm definitely not doing it as grown man.

I'm trying not to impress no one. I'm trying to play my game. So for me, it's always been easy. When I got to a place in my career where I wanted to spit game to others because I just have the world transformed and all this stuff, I started to really think about like first, you know what's cool about the internet is the receipts are there.

My early content was like black and white advice, like be on YouTube. It's going to be big. Use Twitter like this. Facebook is this.

The apps are going to be important. So I was really like even more like CNBC business stuff. And then I was like, wait a minute. Why is no one doing this?

And then I would be out and about. And now all of a sudden I'd be on a conference where a thousand people would be there. And I'd even know better back then. I would just stay and talk to everyone after a talk.

My first talk, I stood there for seven hours talking to everyone. Because I thought it was crazy. People wanted to talk to me. And I was like, wait a minute.

People are insecure. I don't even know if I said it that way. In fact, I was just like, oh man, I'm built different. Like I got lucky.

My mom, my dad, all that stuff. So the real answer is because I want to win and shortcuts is an easier way to lose. I hope you're enjoying the podcast right now. Make sure you follow the podcast.

That's why I'm interrupting. Let's keep going on this show. But follow the podcast. Don't make my mom super happy.

Yeah. I don't know. But I can say one thing. You're not a gatekeeper.

Yeah. You're always trying to put everybody on. In the sense or idea of wanting to see everybody win. I think the last time we saw you was in Cannes.

You're also extended. You're also extended. You're welcome. And your resources.

Other people that were there. Look out for us too. So I appreciate that. Thanks for saying that.

I think I have visionary tendencies. I think that I'm very good at seeing around corners. I'm incredibly intuitive. You know, I keep going to sports because of my favorite thing and I'm with you guys.

Like secondary play. You know, you get to the high levels. You got to be careful because everyone's good. But like as a kid back there football, I was so good at picking the ball off because I'm just watching the quarterback.

I'm just the anticipation. You know what I'm very good at? Not saying no. That's an interesting place to go maybe.

I might have lost something for someone. Hey, I know. I'm like maybe yes. Right?

But you got to navigate it. It could end up being no. But I start with maybe yes because if you start with no, you're cooked. When you start with no, it's over.

When you start with fear, it's a wrap. The world's all fucked up because fear is on offense. Both sides of the political aisle, all the bosses, all the corporations, everyone's weaponizing fear. They're all doing the same exact thing.

I'm going to scare you on immigration. I'm going to scare you on socialism. I'm going to scare you on like just all the same fear, fear, fear, fear. So anything new, you know, the internet, people thought that again, I'm a little more grown than you guys.

People thought it was really, so if you guys were little, like it was like, I was just getting into the business world. Everyone thought that was a fad. There was unlimited articles that I looked up to those magazines saying, they don't know what we've done. This is stupid.

And five years. And social media. That you guys know. Social media was corny.

When you guys were come, right? And I was like, I don't think so. Like all the nightlife guys that I know that are my age that run all the best bots, they laughed at internet kids back in the day. Now they recruit them that are most important people coming through, right?

So I'm just very good at, you know, super cool. Let's go take a day. You're a game. Super Bowl I.

30,000 empty seats. You know that meant? 30,000 empty seats. It was not a big deal.

Now it's, 30,000 empty seats. Forget about tune in and all this. So I'm very good at maybe with a sleening to, yes, I'm also very good at willing to put myself out of business. When you start making paper, let me give you an example.

I've watched you guys from day one, which is why I can. I'll give you love. I want the brands to invest in you. I want you to win bad.

I'm still mad at you for that game. I bring it up every time for that Jets game. It really hurt us in that one. And I'm mad at all of you, actually, as a Jets fan.

But now you guys build. And like I'm watching this like this, I mean, I'm like so joyful right now. And I'm like, but here come AI influencers. And here comes this.

And what if podcast starts to fall? Most people when they work so hard for seven years and they get in the spot where they're about to cook and some new stuff comes, they're like, that's bad. What they're really saying is I'm scared. But sometimes when you're at seven years in a building what you need to build, you might need to jump on that thing to double accelerate and suddenly you're going to lose anyway.

More more sports reference. You can never be in prevent defense in life because just like in football, you will lose. Also to the area. I want you to be, give yourself a little crazed.

Like when you're talking about things that started a long time ago, maybe Channing and I were too young for it. So, you're definitely sorry. I'm kidding. Hey, Jay.

I was like, Hey, Jay. I'm just saying. And you guys. You guys have a name for us.

I remember I remember. I remember I was building businesses when Fred was drafted. Fred young to me. Hey was buddy.

What do you want to do? He said that. I had to get an idea. You want to get it?

You want to get it. I'm going to get it. I'm going to get him. I'm going to get it.

Where was there? I was there. I'm talking about charge out of ginglar. Oh, Jesus.

They don't know what you're doing here. They don't talk to me with the first juicy Jaguar B friend, first edition. No, please, please don't tell me that I got to get a charge out of right in both. Bro, collectibles, real talk.

It's like, and everyone kind of knows. Like, when I started talking about this eight years ago, I had real people hit me up and be like, you're losing it. Straight up from love. They're like, what are you talking about sports cards?

You're like an important business. Back to, are you a visionary? And I'm out here like, making videos like, you need to buy sports cards. Everyone's like, he lost his damn mind.

In fact, the only time I gatecapped, I wasn't gatekeeping. I was checking myself. The only time I did not make public content. The second I knew something was happening was when I thought trading cards and collectibles were about to explode.

I thought I was forcing it subconsciously, because I grew up with it. I'm like, listen, I'm about to put out receipts, and I want to be wrong. So let me like, I spent a year crossing my teas and eyes before I made my first videos about Giannis and sports cards and what I thought was going to go down. Collectibles is a big deal.

Look at us, we're grown men, the four of us. Our daddies at our age right now did not wear clothes and act like this. Look at us, we look like teenagers. Youth culture, culture changes, you know, a Charizard is $400,000 for the best one.

It's art now, it's Andy Warhol. I'd rather buy a Bill Russell 57 Tops rookie card, because what I think Bill meant for the game, for the culture, that collectible means more to me than buying a vase from Sotheby's from Europe from 1830. But a 50 year old businessman just a generation ago, he was buying that. We were buying slickers and rare watches and we're buying collectibles.

And I think it's phenomenal, because it's fun, it keeps you youthful, and it's just fun. Like, I'm like up at night trying to buy 1940 Superman rookie cards, because I'm doing my life and I'm doing that right now, because they're like $8,000 for not even in good condition. I think they're going to 100. Like that's, you know, and so that's happening, yeah, you're going to have to.

I know you love that. I'm going to get you some art. I'm not giving a charge, I'm right now. Because that might not mean anything to you.

Who's your favorite athlete of all time? Lord's name. Great, an LT82 Tops rookie in perfect condition that you could buy for 10K right now, that the long term will go up. You might want to buy that.

You may not. But you might. What even came in for that? Well, I would want to say, because like I said, you're open book and you're not a gatekeeper.

You try to help people out, you try to tell people to train them as the train's changed, as the kind of be changed. And all of that changes. How is that tough on you to really try to keep people up? Because people are going to listen to you.

Which is why I don't say much. Like it's not like every day for me. And I go macro. I'm saying collectibles are good.

Yeah. I'm not saying like you have to buy Lord's Taylor. In fact, Lord's Taylor's likely not one. Because there's nothing that's going to happen with LT.

It's near the whole theme. I mean, you can become a game show host, but I know too much about LT to know we won't. And so LT's not going to do anything that's going to make that go crazy, right? But that might mean something to you like a piece of art, right?

It might. That's not really about that life. It's starting to consider to buy something like that. I'll talk in macro, but not specific.

I'm not going to tell people to go buy a MeToo rare Pokemon. Or I'm not going to say go buy Kevin Dart, Guard Net rookie cards. I mean, I won't go specific because it's too hard. And I could be wrong.

And it moves too much. But I walk in here right now as Bitcoin's crashing. I'm comfortable to say I'll add. I'm buying Bitcoin left in right to the last $40.

Because I'm cost averaging out. Like it was a bucket of quarter. It's $68,000. It can go down to $30,000.

If I said here right now, y'all, you have to buy Bitcoin. And you guys air this tomorrow. I'm sure you have a process. For 13 years from now, right?

You're a leader in that space. You were ahead of the time. You saw around the corner and knew that social media would be a platform where you could do things like this. You mentioned how leaders on both sides politically are driving the subconscious with fear.

They're trying to create their outcomes, weaponizing for scaring people. OK, so for you though, what fears do you have as a leader in your space? What are some of the things that could truly be negative that you would warn people against? The only thing I'm personally scared about is the health of my family.

Real fucking talk. That's real, right? Like, I'm not scared of AI at all. Humans have shown consistently.

You actually want to get off your fear of AI? Go read about the history of electricity. Go to the library because that's the only place you can get this. It's crazy.

Libraries aren't boring, y'all. Because I like doing research, you like to. I love libraries because everyone just thinks everything's on the internet. A lot of stuff's not on the internet.

They've got to go to the library. It's weird as hell. And once in a while, I do it rarely. Once every 10 years, I did it for AI.

I knew the answers to AI were in electricity. And I knew it. And I was struggling to get enough. Search went to the New York Library and literally read old articles from The New York Times in 18.19.

It's crazy. And it's all the same, man. People were scared shitless. Listen, we now know it.

Could you imagine being around with electricity? Everything was candle. People thought there were demons in it. People would not put electricity in their homes because they thought there were demons in it.

Humans are scared of change in a real way. People hear something that scares them. AI's going to do this. It's going to be written with biases.

Right? That was the first thing 18 months ago. We better be scared of AI because all the white dudes from the second system are honestly here. I'm going to write it and it's going to be bad for minorities and women.

OK, next. It's going to be the one that's got everyone shook. Do you know why everyone hates AI, right? Everyone's scared to lose their job.

Straight up. What's that? By the way, electricity changes to everyone's job. Who watched over there?

Yeah, I get it. I get it. My belief is the following. Man, are you familiar with that?

There's something called the atomic bomb. Are you familiar with that? It's been around for 70 years. I just believe in humanity, bro.

Real talk. I believe in the human spirit. Straight up. And so I want to have this analogy.

Please. The way you use the analogy, I want to make sure it's clear. Your mind is, hey, we can have these things like the atomic bomb. Yep.

But if people do the right things with it, it won't lead to the extinction. Better than that. Humans have shown we do the right things in the net. In the micro, a knife is bad.

Let's talk about the knife. We should ban them. Someone stabbed someone yesterday. In the macro, we're the best.

In the micro, we pay attention to the 0.1% of the worst. That's a bar of fuck. Give me some. That's real shit.

Everybody. That's real shit. I think about this every day. I don't know what happened.

Thank you, God. For the mom who gave me the circumstances you gave me, my inability to be confused. I walk around Earth every day and I see nothing but love. Straight up.

I'm aware that if you're looking for negativity or hate or you're shook, rubber necking, the fuck are we looking at, an accident for? No. I get, if you turn on the news, I get how the algorithms work. There's no politics in my algorithm.

There's a lot of jets, football, nicks, cards, wine, happy, joy, rainbow. By the way, I can change everyone. Don't believe me about the algorithm? Everybody, don't believe me that you're in control of the algorithm, not the algorithm on you.

Right now, everybody, stop the podcast. Go to Instagram, go to search, type in rainbows. Enter, like three posts. Out, go back to the search, put in happiness.

Like five pieces of content. Out, this is the most important part. Type in Gary VEE, follow that account. Like three things, go out, put it down.

Come back in the morning, show me your stream, email me, Gary at VaynerX, tell me what happened. The algorithm isn't controlling you. The algorithm is exposing you. Do it one day.

Yeah, Andy. I am on my turn. I'm clean, I'm clean, then. Do you know why I'm so excited about AI?

Because I have zero musical ability in my body. But when they make this AI music, I'm not real bars. I'm going to be the biggest rapper in the game. I just can't sing.

I just can't flow. I know that shit. I got that white fucking man shitting me. But the AI is going to get it from me.

I'm going to be like, all right, give me a metro boom and fucking beat and give me a little baby cadence. The reason on the end, prime, easy, like cardboard, like boom, but all my words. Now, play. I'm going to fucking own Spotify.

I'm going to own it. Because the shit I got to say is so fucking real. And I'm often counter-cultural because I don't fucking follow. I go back and I'm like, let me think.

I would have been good, like 800,000 years ago. I would have been that dude under the tree and be like, I would have been a good philosopher. Comes naturally to me like, I'm not going to rush to anything. I'm going to stay quiet.

It's funny, I was a bad student, but I was good at history. I'm good at pattern recognition. I'm good at that shit. That's a little bit of the stuff we're talking about.

So yeah, I'm optimistic, man. I'm really straight up. Let me say this. Everyone is scared about AI and mad about the work stuff.

When they realize AI is going to save your mom's life, wait until people realize what AI is going to do to medicine. Yeah, you might lose a job, you'll get another one. But when your daughter lives, because of AI medicine, and she wouldn't have without it, I think you're going to have a different take on AI. J, you feel well influenced, accessed, those are the things you talk about.

And I'm sure you've also talked about failure, or how many times you didn't succeed, but people kind of just do whatever they want to do. So you've missed that. So one, give us a little bit of game about failure. But also, the aforementioned portion of that, tell us about what's overrated about success.

I'm going to start there because that's a great question, because that's not asked of me often. There's many things that are potentially overrated about success. It's predicated on who we are individually. We talk in this world now so much in the macro.

But everything's micro. I'll give you a wild one about me. One of the overrated aspects of success is being known. It's crazy what I'm about to say, because I'm one of the actual most prolific content creators of the last 20 years.

I'm private as hell. And for the people that really follow me, they know that, because I don't share anything about my family. One of the overrated things about success is lack of privacy. I don't mind what I'm out and about.

In fact, I love people so, I'm crazy. I'm a lover boy. I like strangers like they're my family. I'm like, I'm a radio runner.

I'm tapping up people. They're my boys from the 80s. I like people. It's a beautiful thing.

I like it. It's easy for me. I'm not scared of people. I love people, all kinds.

I grew up with such great diversity as a kid too. So it was locked in for me early. Going to MLK, elementary school. You know what kind of life that is.

And we had a good. It wasn't just black kids. We had Asian and Indian and white. And it was just like this beautiful thing.

So people are natural to me. So when I'm with my family, I have a 16 to 13 year old, they're trying to maximize time with dad. They're not about that. The person that rolls up and wants to tell me their business idea.

They're like, it's limited to begin with, given dad's life. I'm not trying to share you right now. That's a downside. Right?

Listen, downside comes in the pressure of being the financial beacon in your circle. I have a funny feeling you all know what I'm talking about. All of a sudden, everyone's looking at you and forget about the shit we hear about a cousin comes out of the woodworks. It's not even like, of course it's sometimes that.

But it's even just true day to day. True day to day where family members got good intent for you, but it's in the air. You're the one that will fix it if there's a problem. It's the pressure of being the guy.

For me, that comes natural, but I've seen it really hurt a lot of my friends. For me, it came natural because I was an immigrant kid and my mom from day one was like, I've had a real epiphany about my childhood. I think one of the biggest issues in the world right now is kids are getting grown too late. So you're getting grown too late?

Yes, sir. I think kids, I think there's too many parents that are treating their 22 year old man son like he's nine. Still on the payroll. On this fucking, you know, this whole like, let's share our locate, I was out in a business meeting with a 26 year old dude and his mom called him three times, he got to call him back because mom saw that he wasn't home yet.

I'm like, you're 26 bro. I literally told him to his face. I'm like, disconnect with your mom's location now. So I think we have an issue of growing late right now.

All our intended, you know this, we all know, we all know. You don't cover something. You've got something you want to get for your kids, but that's the fuck up. I had grown too early syndrome.

My mom lost her mom at five in Russia. It's tough. My dad lost his dad at 15. I was the oldest and the only one that was born in the old country.

Now I've got siblings here. My mom, I'm getting goosebumps. My mom from the get was like, if something happens to me and dad, you're in charge, I'm lying. She's already pregnant.

She was prepped. Exactly. I don't have judgment towards my mom who killed it. I talk often about my mom being the greatest of all time.

But like, this was like, you know, so I was growing at like 14. At 14, I was already working at my dad's liquor store. I was already like, better businessman than him. I was like, do this.

Like I was already making my own money. I didn't get a gift after 11. Everything was like, you want a second Genesis? Go get it.

So I'm slinging, slinging, and shoveling snow. Like, so I was grown early. You say 26 is too long. Yes, sir.

Yes. Yeah. I'm a big fan. We've been talking about it in the office a lot.

18 is a watershed moment. And then I'm on some. Let me give Grace to the kids. And actually, you're going to be surprised by this.

I'm on some 25. I have an interesting relationship with 25. So I think of it in three numbers. 18, 22, and 25.

18 feels right to me. But that's me. 22 is like some on. You went through college or like what the year is supposed to go.

Fine. I'm even on some. Because I'll tell you where I'm going with this. I'll give you the 25.

My thing is, on your 25th birthday, shut your fucking mouth. I am done hearing it's mom's fault. It's dad's fault. It's Instagram's fault.

When the fuck is it? Your fault. Right? Listen, here's my thing.

Again, I got lucky. I grew up in like not the best places. Most of my friends had a fucked up sitch. Dad was an alcoholic.

Mom wasn't there. Like, real shit. My thing is, if you've ever seen me, I went to a hood college. I was such a bad student.

I thought I was not going to go. And trick my parents. My mom smacked me in the face and said you're not going to embarrass me. You're going to go to college.

I went to now out of college. 90% of the kids in Newton, Massachusetts were on financial aid. 80% of the population at my college was black and Hispanic on financial aid. I'm not talking about fucking HBCU.

This was silo and spades and guns and knives and basketball. Like, my guy. My guy. I went to D-Wade's fucking D-Wade's spades party for the first time, seven years ago.

My first draw in the tournament was Chris Paul and his mom. His mom is a gangster, spades player. I caught her on a deep cut throwaway move that you have to really play spades like that. This woman turned to me and said she's a player.

I got her. She thought she was playing a white dude and didn't know what the fuck he was doing. I did this on her. 100%.

I did this move on her. She turned. She said boy, what do you know about spades? I said way more than you think, mama Paul.

So in that culture, in that life, like I saw on my college crew, there was a lot of kids. One of our friends is in jail for life or murder. He didn't make it to the other side. The rest of my crew, everybody became a much better man than what they grew up with.

If they had the strength to do it, if they found their community to help them, then everyone that looked like them can too. That's the excuses I'm trying to talk about. The blaming. We become addicted in society with fingers.

Everyone's throwing fingers at all times. Where the fuck is the thumb? Where's the thumb? My question to that would be the conversation.

Actually, today, someone put a message on their social about racism. This is the black man. He's basically saying, I feel like if you speak about racism, you're not becoming a victim. I don't want to be around people who are victims.

I don't want to be around people who are blaming others. My reply to women was this. If I see bullshit, I can call you on bullshit. I don't have to believe that that bullshit can happen to me from becoming a teen.

Everything that I was made supposed to be and I would work to be. It also doesn't mean I had to allow your bullshit to be. He doesn't have to give a pass. My question to you would mean, how would you?

What's the balance of that? It's such a great question. I think of it this way. One man's point of view.

There is systematic issues in society. But you said it so beautifully. That means that that needs to completely impact you in a way where everything out of your mouth, your whole being is based on the excuses of why not. You're saying something very important.

I think things are blended. Things are easy for me to decouple. Both things can be true. There can be systematic sexism, racism, separation of wealth scares the fuck out of me.

I hate it. Charles Barkley said, we don't have a black and white issue. We have a rich and poor issue. There's some real things to debate in there because we know.

The enormity of black wealth that's been created in the last 40 years in America compared to before because of the rise of sport and entertainment and just the culture, the culture, the culture, the black culture. And that becomes culture. I always say to my brands, you want me to sell the 14-year-old white girls in America? I'm going to Southside Atlanta, make it a cool day, and I'll see you in 24 months.

Did you see the SNL, the news report? As a young white actor, I don't know who he is. And he said, let's be real. He said, Gen Z culture is just black.

He said black people say something and they make it cool. They say they're young teenagers. They see it and they start to utilize it and then it becomes a thing. And it's starting to blend.

Adversity is the foundation of success. Black in America because of our history is that. But now you're starting to see it with Hispanic, right? Look what happened to music.

Hip-hop was crushing. And by the way, you know what made rock and roll good? Those South boys that were poor as shit. You guys know?

You had teammates from the South, white boys that were more hood than the black kids on a team, right? I'm not saying. They were associated with horrible black and shit. Or my favorite.

You know what, North East, white and black dudes were always confused by? I was like, no, no. The kids were recruiting. I remember I was recruiting kid for Vayner Sports, a black kid.

And I was like, I'm going to go hunting and fishing with him. And like, like, North East people were like, wait, black people? Like, hunting and fish. They didn't even know, right?

Like, yeah. The Jets, Coach Aaron, he's a cowboy. You know, like, there's so many subcultures, but it's adversity. Jewish culture in America.

Those were people that ran from a country because they didn't want to get killed. They started from zero. And they built. It's just the same game.

That's why you're seeing Hispanic, you know, impact so heavy now. Now we're going to tone. Bad. Who's doing Super Bowl?

Bad Bunny. Right? That's not Gloria Estefan. That's a different game.

You know what I mean? I sit down in all these rooms because people don't like, we'll listen to you. Yep. Uh, 70 or white day they'll listen to you.

Yep. What's different that you can sit in every room and people will listen to what you do. I've been, because I've been in every room. That's why, that's why I tell all the people that are mad at D&I.

D&I? Yes. Anything out of whack, it's crazy. But bro, the reason I can sit in every room is because I grew up in every room.

You know, my life just got, this is why I'm, this is why I'm so driven with gratitude. I did go to Martin Luther King Elementary School. I did spend four years of college playing spades and silo. Right?

So I worked in my daddy's liquor store that was literally in the middle of the tracks. One side of the daddy's liquor store was Union, New Jersey, Elizabeth, like hood. They came to liquor store by seven dollar jugs of wine and a six pack of Budweiser. And the other side of the tracks was Short Hills and Millburn.

And they came in about $900 wine. You know, I feel like I can be in rooms because I, when I'm in rooms, if I was an Asian gaming culture, I come in humble. I can't be in the room. I can be in rooms because if I'm in a room that I don't know, I show respect.

And I'm in a lot of rooms because I was in a lot of places by the time I was 22. I just, the luck of my draw had me in so many different places that, you know, I was an immigrant, this is a funny one. I grew up in Edison, New Jersey. That capital of the immigration of Indians to America in the 80s.

So I'm the immigrant in first, second, third, fourth grade, right? Because I was the only one not born in America. Black, Asian, my second grade picture is crazy. Four Indian kids, four Asian kids, four black kids, four, it was crazy.

United Nations. But then here came all these Indians. And I was like, who are all these people? But I had empathy for them because I'm like, I remember feeling not American.

So I became boys with all the Indians. And those kids were trying to slowly make money too. Probably they got straight A's too. They were crazy.

These Indian Gangsters were crazy. I was getting F's. But I was slinging and trying to make money. These kids were slinging and making money.

And getting straight A's. So that guy is playing how we started. We went to see everybody win. Your foundation.

One hundred percent. But let me ask you more. I'm building companies, building people or building a legacy or a combination. It's a combination of both.

What you just said combination of both. I love building up people that impact the businesses I'm building in parallel. I've seen like four or five alumni on this trip. It's funny.

I watch people move. People that look like me build things. Many people we would all know. They have feelings when people leave them.

I'm not going to be as aggressive as slavery. I'm stunned how many big tycoons we look up to have feelings when a kid leaves and tries to build something for themselves. I'm the reverse. If my alumni is better than me, I want them to build shit bigger than me.

I don't understand this concept of not realizing the world is abundant. So I love building up people. Clearly. So I'm sitting here right now.

I'm hoping that someone that's listening here is something a little different this time. And it switches. But I love building companies. I've got too many companies.

Because I love it. In fact, I have big companies. But they could be bigger if I had less of them. But I'd rather make less money and enjoy my game.

And as far as legacy, I think about it. I think it's sports terms. My life is framed in sports. No question.

That is probably the selfish part of me. I'm curious of how all time great I can be. And I'm still working on it. I have a question about evolution.

Please. You don't become an all time great without evolution. You continue to use sports. All you sports.

Tom Brady. Greatest career of all time. Yes. Greatest player of all time.

Please don't remind me. Hell yeah. It wasn't a ball time. No it wasn't.

He had to make sure he didn't make a mistake. And then he becomes the greatest of all time. He wins three more. And goes to him based on evolution.

Was it. Sir Isaac Newton. Right. Whatever he said.

He was like. For every action. There's an equal to opposite reaction. He was basically constantly.

That was a real bar. He was like. He was basically like. He was like.

I just want to happen. But that's how knowledge has. Because at that time, nobody ever stated it. Yeah, that's right.

There's some people who may know what you know. But they don't say it. They don't put their brand behind. They don't put their name on it.

They're not willing to deal with the ramifications. That's about that. What does it make you so willing to say? You're willing to say, I believe in this, I'm willing to not only put myself in it, but put you up on it too.

Complete lack of fear, you ask me a real question, what am I scared of? I give you a real answer. So the only thing I'm actually scared of is the health of my family. I'm not scared about getting canceled on the internet for 48 hours.

I'm not scared of losing money. I'm not scared of going all the way back, right? The thing that scares me to my vote is that my favorite Rocky is Rocky 5, when he loses everything, he goes back to Philly. When we're wrong with Tommy.

Bro, when he loses everything, you remember Rocky 3, he's got the robot and shit, before he went to Russia, like he was rich, he was rich. And I don't know why that Rocky came out when he goes back to the Philly hood, because he lost it all. And I was romantic about it, like shook me. I'm literally straight up getting goosebumps.

There's something almost romantic to me of losing everything and going to zero. Hearing the whispers from all of you be like, damn, he really fucked up. He wasn't that good after all. I'm like on some, know who I would have been as an athlete, the best, which is crazy because I love the Knicks just below the Jets?

I would have been a badass fucking villain. I want everybody in the arena to boo me, which is wild because no one does. I'm like, loved, but in my real, I'm just not scared of anything. I'm with me, I'm with myself, I'm in my cocoon.

I know I have nothing but good intent. So even if I make a mistake, I have the grace to give myself, because I'm a human, I will apologize. If I am wrong, I will stay back. I will be vulnerable when I understand.

I've been on a three year run telling people that candor was a crypto like for me as an operator. I'm just not scared. What's sexy, but I can talk about Rocky going back to Philly. What's the beautiful part of romantic part or sexy part about that?

Is it the losing? That's not scary. Right, that's not scary. OK, but I'm saying, what makes it romantic, losing it all or having a villain?

Chance to build again? I do love the rights of the Phoenix, because there's a part of me that says, I'm not scared because I'll build it back up and I'll be like, told you. But really, you know this. Man, do I know you guys know this.

When you come from a place of less and then you get to a place of more, most people go into defense. They do not want to go back. And I just have this weird, like, I'm going to live in an apartment that has a rat in it with like a bullshit TV. I don't know, I can eat $2 fast.

I don't want to from my health. But like, I don't know what it is, but it's just, I'm not trying to do dumb shit to make it happen. But I'm just, I'll give you one. When people get the most on tilt about America, like America falling.

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