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EPISODE · May 20, 2026 · 51 MIN

How to Scale a Mortgage Brokerage Without Burning Out?

from Beyond The Numbers With Christian Stevens · host Christian Stevens

Matt Turner is a partner at GSC Finance in Geelong, a former financial planner who talked his way into a banking role, spent five years earning his stripes as a relationship manager (amongst other roles), and built his way to business partner without ever being handed anything.  In the last 12 months alone, GSC has rebranded, moved offices, launched a sub-aggregation arm, added asset finance, and hired a marketing manager. The momentum is real. But this conversation goes well beyond the business build. Matt talks candidly about the decision to move to Loan Market partner and why they fully committed to their aggregator rather than just staying for the licence, the outsourcing mistake that cost them 12 months of growth, and why he believes Australia has roughly twice as many brokers as it needs. He gets into the complex and commercial lending niche he's deliberately building toward, and why he thinks the brokers who can't do it will be the first ones replaced. Then he opens up about something most people in this industry never say out loud. Two suicide attempts. An ADHD diagnosis that explained a lot. And what it's actually taken, not just what worked, to get to the other side of it. He's not sharing it for sympathy. He's sharing it because he thinks the industry's approach to mental health is still mostly a corporate tick-box, and someone needs to say it plainly. If you're building something or quietly struggling behind the numbers, this one is worth your time. 3:19 — How GSC Finance Was Built — From Two Partners to 20+ People Across Two Countries 8:05 — The Sub-Aggregation Decision — Why They Built a Second Business Inside the Business 13:50 — FY27 Growth Plan — Tightening the Screws and Targeting the Right Market 16:25 — The Outsourcing Mistake That Cost 12 Months of Growth 21:24 — Building the Team — Who's In the Business and Why Each Person Matters 27:24 — Stepping Into a Leadership and Partnership Role — Earning the Right to Own It 31:29 — Raising the Standard of Broking — Why There Are Too Many Brokers and a Broken Mentorship System 39:34 — Matt Opens Up About Mental Health — Two Suicide Attempts, ADHD Diagnosis, and the Long Road Back 46:40 — Why "Are You Okay?" Once a Year Is Not Enough — And What Actually Helps Learn more about Flint: https://flintgroup.au/ Connect with Christian Stevens:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/propertyfinance/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cmrstevens/  Connect with Matt Turner:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-turner-20a42693/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/geelongbroker/

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