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EPISODE · Feb 10, 2026 · 55 MIN

How to Scale to 4 Hospitality Properties Without Raising Millions in Capital | Sam Degenhard E70

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What if there's a way to scale a hospitality portfolio without having to own the real estate? For operators looking to grow quickly without raising millions in equity or navigating complex bank financing, the OpCo-PropCo model offers a compelling alternative path.In this episode, you'll discover how to build a hospitality brand by leasing properties instead of buying them, command premium ADRs without real estate risk, and scale across multiple markets using the OpCo-PropCo model.An outdoor hospitality founder who operates campgrounds, backcountry lodges, and micro-hotels across Colorado, Arkansas, and California shares how he scaled to four properties in three years without traditional financing. Sam Degenhard's Campfire Ranch model separates operations from ownership, partnering with land investors who buy the real estate while he focuses on building a brand that commands $90 to $1,400 ADRs and spends just 2-3% of revenue on marketing.In this episode, you'll discover:The exact lease structure that lets you scale hospitality properties without raising millions for acquisitionsHow to partner with real estate investors who buy the land while you control 100% of operations and guest experienceWhy focusing on the business side lets you open properties faster with significantly less capitalThe owner-operator staffing model that runs an 8-bedroom lodge profitably with one employeeHow to command 4-5X market rates by building brand loyalty instead of competing on OTA platformsThe due diligence process that identifies underperforming assets is perfect for operational turnaroundsWhy subscale properties under 30 keys deliver better margins than traditional hotel modelsWhether you're an operator exploring faster paths to scale or an investor looking to understand how hospitality brands grow without traditional real estate ownership, this episode reveals a proven model that separates the business of hospitality from owning the dirt and the strategic advantages that come with focusing purely on operations.About Sam DegenhardSam Degenhard is the Founder and CEO of Campfire Ranch, a vertically integrated outdoor hospitality brand building a diverse "collection" of adventure basecamps, ranging from developed campgrounds to backcountry huts and renovated lodges. A veteran of Red Bull’s sports marketing team, Sam famously traded his corporate career for life in a teardrop trailer on public land, launching a business dedicated to removing the "friction" of camping for the experience generation. He now specializes in the acquisition and operation of sub-30-key assets in high-recreation markets like the Rockies, the Ozarks, and the Sierra, utilizing an OpCo model to partner with real estate investors while delivering high-touch, community-driven guest experiences.Connect with Sam DegenhardConnect with Sam on LinkedIn.Follow them on Instagram or visit their Website.Learn how to use AI to underwrite faster, streamline operations, automate the busy work, and make better decisions. Start your 7-day free trial of the AI for CRE Collective here.Connect with Michael on Instagram or LinkedIn.Email Us at [email protected] the Hotel Investor Playbook InstagramInvest with Malama CapitalSubmit a deal

What if there's a way to scale a hospitality portfolio without having to own the real estate? For operators looking to grow quickly without raising millions in equity or navigating complex bank financing, the OpCo-PropCo model offers a compelling alternative path. In this episode, you'll discover how to build a hospitality brand by leasing properties instead of buying them, command premium ADRs without real estate risk, and scale across multiple markets using the OpCo-PropCo model. An outdoor...

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