How to Solve the Metacrisis--with Jordan Hall (PART 2)

In Part 2 of this episode of the Coherent Business Podcast, host Aram DiGennaro continues his conversation with Jordan Hall, co-founder of DivX, longtime systems thinker, and a central figure behind concepts like Game B, the Neurohacker Collective, and the "metacrisis." Picking up where Part 1 left off, Jordan traces the final, most personal leg of his search — from the realization that even a "gang of geniuses" can't produce enough coherence to meet the metacrisis, through the physical and financial toll of over a decade and tens of millions of dollars spent chasing the answer, to an unplanned move to the Western North Carolina mountains that unraveled into something he never expected: an invitation into community, then into church, and ultimately into his own baptism.Jordan and Aram unpack why real coherence seems to require the whole of the human family — elders, mothers, children, not just high-potential specialists — and why he came to see this as structurally similar to how atoms need protons, neutrons, and electrons to be stable. They discuss the "protocol of the stranger" as a way of showing up in unfamiliar communities with humility and openness, why tight, values-aligned crews consistently outcompete larger and better-resourced organizations, and why Jordan believes the disruption coming from AI will demand something closer to family or even religious-level commitment than ordinary business relationships. The conversation closes with Jordan's practical challenge to leaders: build a values hierarchy that goes as high as it can, gather a crew capable of full commitment, and learn to operate inside liminality rather than waiting for certainty that may never come.Key Topics: the limits of high-potential individuals vs. whole-community coherence, business and educational analogies for coherence (Google, IBM, Dunbar limits, archetypal teachers), Jordan's personal collapse and move to Western North Carolina, the "protocol of the stranger" and showing up in liminality, his unexpected path to Christian baptism, why AI-driven disruption demands tight, fully-committed crews, building a values hierarchy "as high as it can go."Resources:Jordan's Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordangreenhall/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMzT-mdCqoyEv_-YZVtE7MQAram's Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aram-digennaro/ Coherent Business Project Website: https://coherentbusinessproject.com/ — For leaders, thinkers, and builders who believe business can be more than just efficient — it can be whole, human, and meaningful.