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How Writers Can Use the Enneagram to Build Better Characters [Ep 346]

from The Dialogue Doctor Podcast · host Jeff Elkins

Can the Enneagram actually help you write better characters? Or is it just pseudoscience with numbers, occult-looking diagrams, interpretive dance, and a suspicious amount of personality-test confidence? In this episode of The Dialogue Doctor Podcast, Jeff Elkins sits down with JP Rindfleisch IX to talk about the Enneagram as a tool for writers. Jeff and JP approach the topic with the right amount of usefulness and skepticism. They are not treating the Enneagram like scientific law. They are not suggesting writers should trap characters inside rigid personality boxes. Instead, they look at the Enneagram as a practical storytelling tool: a way to think about how different characters make decisions, respond to stress, create conflict, and develop distinct voices. The conversation starts with JP's approach to building character personality from the inside out, then turns into a funny and honest breakdown of the Enneagram's strange history, its disputed origins, its religious baggage, and why people are so drawn to systems that help them understand themselves and others. Then Jeff brings the conversation back to craft. For writers, the most useful part of the Enneagram may not be memorizing all nine numbers. It may be starting with the three major centers: thinking, feeling, and instinct. From there, Jeff and JP talk about how characters respond differently when they are under pressure. Some characters move toward fear and anxiety. Some move toward shame. Some move toward anger. Those core responses can help a writer build a cast where each character reacts to the same event in a different, believable, emotionally grounded way. The episode digs into: how personality tools can help writers without becoming a cage why characters should not all process conflict the same way how fear, shame, and anger can shape a character's voice how the Enneagram's three centers can help you build a more varied cast why the nine types are more useful when you go big-to-small how helpers, achievers, challengers, loyalists, investigators, peacemakers, and individualists can show up on the page how Jeff used Enneagram thinking while developing characters in NRDS and Mojo and Mayhem why wings, subtypes, and deeper Enneagram theory can become too muddy for practical character work how basic fears and desires can help define a character quickly and how healthy, average, and unhealthy versions of a type can help writers think about character growth This is not an episode about taking a personality test and assigning your protagonist a number. It is an episode about using personality frameworks lightly, strategically, and creatively so your characters do not all sound like slightly different versions of you. Listen in if you are trying to build a more varied cast, sharpen character voice, deepen conflict, or understand why one character reacts with anger, another with shame, and another with fear. Because the point is not to prove the Enneagram is true. The point is to steal what helps you write better fiction.

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