How Wrong Were Our Predictions This Year? - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 28

What's up guys welcome back to the kind of funny games cast is always I'm Tim Getty's joined by one of the coolest dudes in video games Green drink himself Greg Miller. They call me the green drink. What's your drink in there? It's a smoothie actually What's up guys welcome back to the kind of funny games cast is always I'm Tim Getty's joined by one of the coolest dudes in video games I I I know you do it whatever the game Watch if you want to listen to it like bless us talk about you do that to podcast services just search for kind of funny games Cast and we'll be there for you.

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Good I've had Hamilton stuck in my head for the last five days and it's gone from being like man This is awesome to me. I'm going insane. I can't like look into my last four years lesson I can't get the songs out of my head and I don't I don't know what to do about it I try listening to other songs. It doesn't work.

I try just like not listen to it doesn't work I feel like I have to then start listening to it again and yeah, it's it's driving me crazy blessing You've only been with us a couple months now But I've already hit my favorite moment being on camera with you And it was during the Hamilton and review screencast that we did where you did your intro and you were trying to reference the And you threw it away you fucked up a line so bad You made up for it at the end of it though your outro was fantastic. I'm not gonna go check that out YouTube.com slash kind of funny Yeah, everyone so I feel again welcome back to the show last week you made your valiant return. All right You welcome back two weeks in a row. He deserves I've seen a lot of love for him on the on the reddit in the comments and stuff.

This is good This is good. It deserves all of the love because I appreciate you so much. I'm on I know it last week I kind of went off and I gave you a lot of praise I'm gonna give you more praise this week because you just keep putting out tweets that I either completely agree with and I'm just like God This guy is really good takes or I completely disagree with it's never thing about I hate you It's always a thing where I'm like damn is this smart dude. We might disagree.

I fucking I respect it I'm sorry about it. I'm already what I agree with That was Mario and Mario. I think it was like on top of Mario I said if you can get past the art style and you from my brothers if you deluxe is probably the one of the best Mario games Oh, if you can get past the boring art style new Super Mario Brothers slash new Super Mario Luigi you Is a better 2D Mario than most of the games in the series. Yeah, I didn't even see you the tweeter I just saw Andre from Game Explainer spawn with the no no no no no Like this could be a game cast topic on itself because we allow all the 2D Mario games I'd love to see the argument or like here the argument for Mario You because I think I think the Wii U Mario brothers are like good games and if you divorce them from the boring art style Like they're even amazing games, but like I don't know if I can put them above Mario 3 and Super Mario world And they're in that conversation and I would I'm with him on and said I don't know how high you rank a fucking We're talking about this right now guys for at least a couple minutes.

We got to change the topic This is it. No, I feel like it's in the conversation of three in world. It's not gonna beat them. There's no fucking It's three I think three are you're wrong But the levels of three are interesting but they're way too short the second That's what that's what's great about them though.

They're bite-sized. They don't overstay their welcome. There's so many of them It's like a new challenge every other corner, you know, but like I feel like we could buy like three of those levels and have like a normal size level It'd be fine, but then just think of it long and then it's fine My eyes I was a world guy my entire life where I was okay. Yeah, but it's number one But in my old age I'm realizing that three is probably the better game, but it's so close.

It's so close It really comes down to you. Do you want more creativity and interesting different things to do? That's three or do you want more exploration in a lot of very similar looking locales? That's world both of those fantastic experiences you add new Super Mario Bros.

You to the mix and that's just kind of like a weird A weird hodgepodge of I think more consistent long good levels and challenging levels I think what I think we should provide this to you actually succeeds is it's not either those games or platforming It's mostly platforming. It's those gold coins or whatever the green coins or whatever they were It's those small little platform challenges and finding those coins because they're not hidden necessarily But they're always like oh this could be a reason to check this area or to do this one platforming thing I would not think to do and I think that's what makes that level design better And that's why I love the GBA ports of the Mario all-stars versions of Mario 3 and Mario world Well Mario world don't think but like because it has the Yoshi coins or has the little collectible coins But they're not as thought out as they are in the Wii U version. Yes, so there's a lot of good arguments Mid there's no argument for we which Jared Petty thinks is the best of these and he's Get the fuck out of here. We is we is great for co-op is what I'll say like it is a great great great co-op game I think the one that really establishes new smart brothers as a co-op game But I think that's really the only thing I can give it No, so you're gonna controversial like Twitter takes Greg.

How did that we you for speeda thing turn out like what was the end of that poll? Of a new topic number two we're talking about the Wii versus Vida. No, no, no the Vida one Hey, what's close though? Let me try to get that pulled up for you.

I mean It's not a beautiful You think you think that but for the most part my cult is able to see through bullshit remember When a when me and a caffrey did the thing where cat my calf We put up to you like the PlayStation six or the offset six the Xbox controller right Xbox obviously started steamrolling it He's like I would be interested if you know one day an alternate universe Greg posted this with the exact same work And I just did exactly what he pitched right in text right away the link and still even on my feet offset six one For the Vida pull it went like this I said you have to pick one Vida or Wii U Vida one with 53.2% of the vote That's so close on like the Greg Miller from the Greg Miller audience that I feel like I would edit toward Wii U I mean I'm currently going Vida, but I feel you had a face with you might win I had no good games I didn't know you had better ones if I can give you the feedback out where they started from ladies and gentlemen If you're not following me on Twitter first off on we pull the car over Lean outside put your feet on you kneel put your body into your chair pull down your own payments make yourself three times because you have been naughty You should be following me on Twitter. You naughty naughty person. All right now get back in the car start driving in On Twitter though a sooner had tweeted at me is a game over Gregy Hey, any chance you in the team at kind of funny vids can stop shitting all over Nintendo land in the Wii U We was an amazing console Damn it was ahead of its time And I just I quote tweeted just said no the Wii you suck and then that was off to the races of people pissed off and here We fucking go and like as soon as credit totally another joke This is a dumb video game argument between best friends on Twitter a person I don't know kind of That's right and so then I put up the poll and then that was a whole nother can of worms then somehow we you started trending I was like oh god what do we do I see people I'm adding some time go to I'm really chatty we're talking about it. Yeah, we're like actually really mad at you for starting an argument like Van do a casino is the home of Huff and Puff slots online and we've just launched our newest exclusive game Puff and Puff money mansion stack up houses and spin for massive bonuses for those big bad wins exclusively on fan do We'll casino download the app today.

Please play responsible 19 plus and physical located in Ontario if you have questions or concerns about your gambling or the gambling of someone close to you Please contact connect Ontario that's yeah Let's dive into this just a little deeper than we already have obviously I'm gonna side with the Wii U because I'm a Nintendo boy and the Wii U was home to many amazing Nintendo games Whereas to me the Vita didn't necessarily have the games that I would associate with why I like PlayStation and I have some But it's just like golden abyss not my favorite of the party games. I think that's the big thing though. I think You're cutting out busting out, but I assume you're saying you're saying you're saying you're I'm cutting out the Vita is not being blessed right now. I'm back.

No, there he's back. I know I'm I'll say that we you're good You're good. I'll say that we you has better first party. That's my third party Well, if you know we're starting it had we you has my Much no third party and if it does a third party, it's like exclusive.

Yeah Yeah, Tara what I did love kills on mercenary which again was good I was saying we use me problem is that like I'm really they didn't get started on the Wii U like they didn't really hit the engines on That system until like well after it was dead and like three years in and like that was when split to in a Mario maker And those games are coming out. Oh, yeah now they understand what they want to do with this controller But before that I was like, okay, this is a good Mario game. It's just a good donkey on game. That's cool But an amazing talking yes, okay, I think that's on Twitter the best on country game was tropical phrase And here's the thing that was one that I'm like, I don't know that I can agree with you I respect it I wasn't sure which one I wasn't sure which one I like the takes because I know they're coming from an educated place You're wrong Duncan.

I'm too is better, but tropical freezes is something special But I'll Nintendo land. You're what are your thoughts on Nintendo land? I think Nintendo land was a couple of really good wealth out many games But it's probably a number of or at least four great mini games in that big how many bad were they bless how many bad I Couldn't tell you what the other ones were honestly I'm doing a ten-a-lan thing before all this COVID stuff struck, but oh, yeah, that's really played at some point. Yeah Yeah, yeah, Mario chase, which is like the tag game, which is excellent.

You have what he needed more courses for sure Yeah, you have the Luigi's Mansion mini game, which is the best mini game in that thing that countless countless nights in college Having to blast with that bang there's an Animal Crossing game, which I can't remember what it was called or even what the rules were I just know there was a lot of fun. Um, and then Good this all day. Yeah, this all on real thing was really good And then I think that's kind of where it stops for me It's like a single player like the best single player game in that event was the donkey on one But I never played it single player is because I didn't own a Wii you out whenever I played it We usually without a friend's place and so Nintendo land for me was primarily a multiplayer game Yeah, but yeah, I think I had a number of very good ideas the problem is no No, it's good ideas for like here's why you need this controller or why you need this system And that was like the major problem with that as a set piece software So it wasn't the Wii sports of the Wii U and I think that it was kind of hoping it would be totally I think that's why in particular with the sooner in the my response of know that we you suck I'm not talking shit about it in 10 land I didn't attend a land as a demo at e3 once and headphone to fit I never fucking touch it again when I got a Wii U I never fucking opened the box. I just tossed it to the side It was more the fact that I think the Wii U sucks not the library not the thing I hate the fucking machine I hate the shady controller I hate you can't get more than whatever six feet from it with it I was just like that's my whole thing about why I hated the Wii U and why yeah a whole bunch of great games came to it And I couldn't be bothered to drag the Wii U off my fucking bedroom floor Untangle the goddamn sensor bar to put it back in there to do the thing to get it all running I mean, I'm sorry memory cards for the Vita and all this other that was totally cool.

You're right Tim the one time purchase Oh the god The memory card bring my chargers with me. Oh fuck I need to bring a Vita specific charger I Do it at GameStop as a V no owner you got to go to the PlayStation Store look at all the different indies But by severed get some me boy get real legacy get the hits man It's all about the indie I'm hardcore as one percent of all right this one is fine on PC, but the thing with the Let's just start knocking off a Wii U games. We're not to fuck And also go to a wife who uncovered coming to Nintendo switch Nintendo switch continuing the legacy of Games, but I don't have to go to a game stop to look at this I could be embarrassed at home in my own time Oh Let's move on to what we've been playing bless. I want to ask you what have you been playing?

So I'm playing a lot of this mobile game called trivia Royale, which is it's basically just about a reality But a trivia version because if you know me, you might know that I really dig trivia It's so I know a lot of people are probably familiar with like HQ trivia and stuff like that It's like live trivia shows. This is not that this is basically a thousand players come together and like this big old trivia event and you're basically match makes with Like one other player one at a time You're going through like these rounds of five different questions And if you beat that other player you then get you then progress to the next round And so you go you're actually going like one at a time Round round for round against a bunch of players and see then you're seeing how far you can get It's not been a lot of my time playing this game because it's really really addicting I played it for the first time last night and I played it for about an hour and a half I was just eating I was like that like it was one of those things I should have been going to sleep I couldn't I couldn't stop it was a one more match one more match You get to choose the topic of trivia so you can choose video games Yeah, and like the questions they ask are pretty interesting where it's like it's not as easy as you kind of expect because I went into it Like these are gonna be I'm gonna nail this 10 out of 10 for everything and I missed a couple of them You can start to kind of learn what it what it's doing, but bless Do around right? Yeah Yeah, so in actually to that point Tim because yeah, there's like a couple of different ways you can do like the battery I which pulls in all the different topics or you can choose your topic like you're saying and I've been doing a lot of the Video game stuff and trying to open it up here as I'm going Yeah, I just lost battery But I've been killing it in the video game trivia. I think I have like I've so far of one like 10 out of 12 I've not been playing I'm not playing a crazy amount of the topic based stuff But I think I think I've reached like number two or three in SF at this point as far as like ranked yes Because I don't know what I'm saying.

So why's not Yeah, yeah, yeah I think you just launched up the battery all game or I'm registered right now. It's asking. Oh, yeah Yeah, oh my dear so bless are you gonna load up a video game trivia right now? I'm trying it's like being slow because like the one thing that I thought is funny is every round There was at least one question where one of the answers was eternal champions The questions do range from like very easy to like really obscure and like kind of nonsensical like those one where The question was what's the name of this game console and how to picture of it and a picture of a PlayStation Vita and literally like in the picture You can see on the Vita where it says PS Vita It's like all right like we're put together this question wasn't like thinking too hard about it I was playing against some some really young kids last night because they were nailing like the Minecraft stuff And there was a similar thing where it showed a super Nintendo and says super any s on it or whatever and like I got it right They got it wrong all right.

So I got a mask kids. I got it open So right now I just click the video game topic and so it's like searching. Is there any way? Yeah, we can focus it We can actually see it Okay, how's that looking no you're too close pull back a bit there we go.

Oh Okay, that's good enough yeah, yeah, all right Hold on so I'll read the question what products what products Logan is live in your world clean hours? I have no idea what the answer is That's yeah, living your role playing ours Yeah, I was just a little bit one year. Yes, too. Ratchet and clank stuff.

Oh, okay Which company was responsible for the Wii gaming console says obviously Nintendo? And he has only five questions so questions three of five which of these video games is based off of Dungeons and Dragons and has Tetracy and I miss command dishonored and ball to get to yeah, yeah I was just praising these for being difficult and these sound really easy but trust me there's some weird yes Which 1981 game was the first was the first with animated cutscenes has kid It's hockey super Mario Brothers and Donkey Kong. Oh shit. I'm one the answer is Donkey Kong.

Oh I guess that makes sense right What 1980s arcade game featured the hand-drawn animated character the daring Traggin's like oh shit. It's home. I have a back-neckion eventually I have one down I guess I'm gonna Anyway, truth your well's dope. I'm super into it.

I'm doing my first one right now. Okay, I'm doing it Let's go around with Greg Miller playing against ye two four three this guy's gonna fucking die Say hi say hi. He says let's do this Here we go get ready one here. We go question one of five.

What is the name of this video game console? It's PlayStation 4 they didn't Inter-cap PlayStation cowards Question two of five what is the name of the purple dragon that inspired the sky laner team spider? Hey, I'm just going off what they be What completes this video game? It's Majora's mask.

Sorry. I can be faster. He said Majora's gone with what a fucking idiot Game console made by this company Sega I Mount X is a boss in which fighting series Mount X tech in three three three internal champions fighters engaged I went to turn I want to turn champions Mount X MT period X on the winner. There you go.

That's it. I never have to play again now Wait, no, wait, right? No, it's not it doesn't I went so fast. It didn't do it.

Yeah, it's not straight Oh, wait, is it's a mister X because then that's right here. Yeah, I think they misspelled it because mister X is a bridge If you answer it faster than the other people you get more points. Mmm. There's like a thrill to it all Anyways guys trivial that's dope Greg.

Have you been pointing anything you can actually talk about? I know it's a good point to point out that yeah, I'm playing ghost is she right now We can't talk about it And I when I say me me blessing and him run our Kevin to you over on the ones and twos in our review of that will post Tuesday morning So next Tuesday the tool would ask me what's the day on next Tuesday Tuesday 14th? We'll have a review at 7 a.m. Looks like what I'm gonna.

I believe is the correct time But no, I've been playing that so that's been dominating all things on top of that I guess I've been playing watch dogs legion and assassin scream all but I can't tell you about that till Sunday so Sunday remember It's you saw forward. We'll be doing our live reacts on twitch.tv slash kind of fun games and a post show you catchable fun YouTube not kind of funny games later once the presentation leaves off forward ends We will be able to talk to you about playing that that'll be mean there talking about both those names Oh, you know, I don't know much to talk about but since blast brought up the mobile game stuff I've been back on my pickle blast bullshit and I'm so close to three starring every single level I'm down to like the final 20 that I need to do which sounds like a lot But there's a shit on levels and I'm just at this point where every day I'll just load a couple up and just try and try and try and try and I just beat my head against the wall I don't even know I'm doing it I don't want to look up YouTube videos and just figure out like the cheat way to do it You know because like there's all those guides and stuff you know I'm gonna dig in calm look up take a blast and we're bending graver will pull up some bullshit telling how to cheat I'm not trying to cheat now. I'm trying to do this the hard-earned way. I don't know what's ever gonna happen though But whatever you believe in you I trust me.

Thank you. Thank you Greg It's about time some believes in me moving on. I want to talk about predictions We've been telling my predictions more than ever this goddamn year. I swear to God normally It's just okay We'll do like beginning of the year predictions and then we'll do right before you three predictions And then we'll do right before game awards predictions But with this summer game fest summer game mess this naughty three we got new predictions every week And I know that it's getting a little tiresome But I did look back and last time we did a proper predictions topic on games class was like two and a half months ago So it was a while back and so much has changed we have so many new events We have so much confirmation of days change dates things have happened the PlayStation and all this other stuff But before we get to all that I do want to look at our prediction so far We've made many predictions this year and I want to let this group of people know we're not doing too well I saw that in subreddit like oh shit.

We were real wrong still so my boy cannon over on reddit has been always For the last couple years looking at our predictions and kind of giving us the points And I've looked at him as the official kind of funny points bearer Taken on the the role of that what was his name Greg from back in the beyond days? Well, I'm a dog Nick 96. Oh my dog Nick 96 Exactly, um, kind of has been doing it on games cast for a long time I really appreciate it I'll go in and he'll like give us and I look at him as the truth Whatever he says goes because he gives us the points and the random like half points and third points and he tries to be fair and balanced I appreciate that but anyways looking at it right now. I'm just gonna let you guys know at the bottom is Imran.

Oh wow, which a quarter of a point right? Normally when we do this even the bottom is probably at least three or four points I'm trying to open it up, but I mean come on. This has been a weird year everything's moving everything's changing The difference for me is that I actually know things I can't say them What do I predict that is an answer that I know that's the rules of these games man So you come in at point 25 And you got that for um PS5 reveal parts of it. Okay.

I come in next At one third of the points Wow Because I predicted correctly that blue points game would be shown at the ps5 reveal of it Although I was wrong about everything else including the fact that it would not be team souls that it wouldn't be Yeah, I thought I said I said it was even souls but I didn't count as an actual prediction So that was no points, but I still it was on record that I got that right then Barrett coming in He has half the point Yeah, I think you only made one prediction and I need to find this is a long thing And it's hard because he only gave notes on like why we have this point I need to find it in the doc later But it's about never forgetting about that man It's time to write in somewhere. So this is it who's the winner so far is it Greg or is it bless? Do you guys have an idea on who you think it is? I think it's less for obvious reasons Greg.

Who do you think it is? I had already read this I haven't found me now, but I'd already read this and you know, it's a lot of bullshit That's one Bless is the winner so far Greg Miller coming in. It's all the lead. All right.

It's a lead Tim. All right No one that goes over till it's over. All right, that's true But so far young buck nipping at my heels every day. All right.

Come on. I love nipping Big brother with one point Because of pad upon two Greg Miller said pad upon two is released an IGN and game spot continued to be cowards and refused to review it He got told you the great gets the one solid point for that And blessing is currently leading Because of two things. Yeah, one point seven five points. Let's go and that is because He resisted the horizon to bandwagon of it being launched game or launch window game But also because this motherfucker said that GTA five was gonna be a standalone release on the PS5 Not only was it it was the opening fucking second You all doubted me.

You all doubted me. I agree with you. I mean, I think you might have agree to me actually everybody else doubted me Uh, it's so funny so funny But yeah, looking through some of the his little editorializing on our predictions here When will the ps5 be revealed defined as release date and price all of us were wrong still waiting on both release date and price But he's gonna give him on the point two five for at least being right about the first look So In my own is the only person that said june the rest of us said may So there you go And what would be the first party size exclusive launch titles for ps5 none of us got it right or also all wrong because um bless We have everyone said horizon to accept or bless who said blue points game and house games Uh, i'm coming with street fighter six almost i'll be there because this episode is also just kind of about predicting the future too Do you think street fighter six gets announced this year and if so where i used to think it would get announced but then they know street fighter five Whatever season they're on so i think they're gonna finish that out and maybe early next year Are we here like a cap comp pro tour announcement of like oh, yeah, and here's your fighter six Okay, okay Um moving on here. Yeah, blast gets plus one for saying gta 5 will be released in some new edition for next gen Is even new edition or just like here's gta 5 again I mean, it's not trying to take away by my name I'm adding the disc or scaven they called it the expanded something something You know, they're something like that.

Yeah, and I think I had another specific prediction that there's gonna be like single player dlc And they've said nothing about that all I say single player dlc and more something they just add more content to the single player What you said blessed was gta 5 will be released in some new edition for next gen either graphical overhaul or new single player content akin to persona 5 royale Yes, royal so technically I got one of those right and I wouldn't give you a full point, but you know, I'm still For new single player content. I'm still holding out hope. I think there's a chance that it can still have some They didn't have ps5 footage at the reveal Why not because they're working on new assets Think about it. I don't think about it.

I don't think about it. I don't think about it. I don't think about that Um, let's see blessing got another point 75 because he said horizon zero dawn two is revealed this year for ps5 and not for launch Data 2021 instead there will be an act three game at launch. So that's why you didn't get the full point there There's a point in the boy.

I should say ask her bot because we did because in my mind I remember making that prediction and being like it could be asher bot and ash fat would be the better decision And they actually did it which I could have got that full point but Then we got a Barrett got point five because he said ration clank to follow up to the 2016 game within the first year of ps5 We don't know that yet, but that's why you're up point five gotcha. I appreciate that Um Great predicted marvels adventures gets late to 2021 looking very unlikely at this point. What are you looking forward to that? What do you think now though?

Yeah, I think They seem to sit on it the market wheels are all very much in motion and you see it every day There's like three or four tweets every fucking day with a new gift about it. They've always very well thought out tweets No, yeah, yeah They did the giant war table thing already like I think they would have been I think they would have made a move by now They could look down on it. They go man in two months. We're not going to game time ready Uh, imron said that beyond good and evil too doesn't come out this year But I think they released rayman this year.

So we have the Ubisoft conference coming up in ron I think actually when busing out talking about you we saw yesterday I think I might have done the exact opposite direction on it said like no rayman We right now like we had to put the money on it Okay for these predictions. I will say yes rayman is showing but not released Oh, I really hope I want more rayman. I would too. Let's go Um, let's see Uh, the next four inside xbox conference on July 23rd I'm gonna says there's zero way that marvel didn't approach microsoft kind of thing I think that thing will be shown and it's the initiative's first game.

I hope that's true That is the one I want to be so fucking badly. I'm gonna say that right? Sorry. I go for a man I was gonna say I'm gonna back off on that.

I think they'll show a game Well, okay, I don't know that it'll show a game But I think at that point this point that game is perfect Do you need the initiative? Is like He has a I'm like fully convinced that it's perfect arc and I kind of believe Jeffy grub that we're not gonna see it I if I could believe Jeffy grub grub. I think what's that kind of do? I think well, we won't see it, but it is the game that we're working on that is my feeling So why would we not see it and by the way Kevin frittancos and the cast for this we're now just molding our melding our Predictions and looking back at our old predictions.

There's one giant kind of hodgepodge of fun. Yeah predictions update with all of this Why do you think that is around it? Are they not going to show it in a couple weeks because it's not ready to be shown or because they are trying to play a chess game with PlayStation on reveal announcements between reveal events state of plays and inside Xbox whatever the fuck you want to call them I think it's half chess game and half if it's a game It appeals to the same audience halo wood So you want to make people pay attention to halo as the big thing the big headline of this event Fable and halo are different things like they both appeal to a Microsoft audience But I think not so much as perfect our can halo wood and they don't want to make that same mistake They did maybe for where like they kind of rush the game a little bit and didn't really know what the audience wanted from it So this I think is a way for them to make halo if they're opening salvo and then say by the way coming after this is a new perfect Art that blows everyone away. Do you think though that my that with my thoughts event coming out now if it was just halo and fable Is that enough?

No, I assume they're gonna have some other big thing I assume they will also have like some major third party collaborations But I don't think the initiative is quite like I don't think they're gonna show that But I do believe that for every other first party studio they have they're going to go down the list and be like Hey, this is what obsidian is actually working out. It's not just grounded Here's more helblade to here's By a while. Yeah, like here's what the next big thing for double fine stuff like that What about marvel going back to this prediction do anyone here doesn't even hear actually think we're gonna get a marvel game at the xbox showcase I mean, I think the question is who would work on it like who'd be the ones developing it? I guess that if we can fit that puzzle piece then I can't think of what that puzzle piece would be Great at like a 10-dose marvel game was not made by Nintendo.

It was made by kakmo Exactly. I mean, I think I think if it's not gonna be one of the first parties which I still hope it would be even though it probably won't be Yeah, you can easily get to so many part of it on third party thing Just like a PlayStation just did a PlayStation VR for Iron and VR with camouflage Just like yeah, also in Tommy. I can't exactly exactly exactly. I was thinking more recent stuff But yes, that is also true.

All right, and this prediction there are at least I hope that we've brought up multiple times But you know I'm saying they can make a great dr. Strange game and I said Wolverine Well, yeah, yeah, I mean listen there's some there's probably some remnants of a deal made with platinum for scalebound that that exists somewhere and listed a platinum Made of Wolverine game. I thought we'd all be in so I can't imagine this actually happening But with the news that might sound as interested in buying those cities in DC What if they announced a like a Warner Brothers like DC collaboration or they bought those studios at this event as well as announced a new marvel game Like together not like versus or whatever, but I mean like two new games like fuck it We got iron Iron Man because I just had a game but like Batman and who'd be a equivalent marvel sebumier over that Wolverine Captain America. Yeah, like those kind of games together That would be ridiculous in a very huge way probably way too soon to even think about anything like that But yeah, you could have the announcement there But that would just even bring up more questions that I don't think you wanted an Xbox showcase, right?

Because you don't want it to be like hey everybody we're excited to announce we've bought wb games We're bringing we have rock steady in every question. It will no longer be like oh, that's right about this Are they still making cross platform games like now? We're not talking about that We're just saying we got you know, I mean like talk with the box like the games So moving on a little bit actually so Greg one of your predictions Well wb Montreal's Batman game is game informers March cover We see him off demo at gdc and it comes out in October I do have it on good authority that I'm making up right now that Amy McNamara left because this can't this cover got canceled by GameStop and they wanted they stood in the way of journalism. That's what happened that's made up for him Right just started on Thursday.

You're interviewing him for we have cool friends on you guys come on slash kind of funny I came tomorrow Hey today if you're listening to this not like just when it posts on youtube You can go check that out great are you gonna ask him if that was the case of why he left? Yes, 100% Well, actually, you know what I probably won't because I want to embarrass him. We just we all you and I we know that's the reason now And I would have had the point if that hadn't happened so that's pretty much it Just read that man shirt and like wink a lot and I think you'll get it Everyone's Sean laden wore the crash medic shirt and then he actually referenced it later And they announced the crash medic game nailed it. What a time what a time to be a lot Um, but anyway, so yeah, you said all that but then April great You did receive your prediction and say that wasn't gonna happen and to be fair remember.

Yeah after March so So let's take back your prediction, but all good all good. Um, bear it says though His official guest for release date is the august force which is national al day, which is literally less than a month from now One stand up wins dc fandom. Um, so whatever Yeah It's an August it is an August so with that where we where we at Because I don't think we've talked about this on game daily a bunch of times or at least I haven't actually me Was it a little bit but that was what it was like? I thought about a lot the wb games who's gonna buy them conversation Now that we have the four of us together the most consistent games daily host minus gerry witter What's gonna happen with wb games?

I mean, I think they'll sell them off just a question of two who I think Two billion dollars is a lot to ask and whoever gets them is going to have to be one of the major companies Uh To me the most likely people seem either like take to or microsoft They are they have the money they had the capital to spend they have to spend on something that if it doesn't work out Then will not be a huge huge We'll not destroy their ambitions for quite a while like that within an activation it actually might because of how weird they are with their software portfolios Uh, but those two I think are the most likely candidates and saying that I'm sure I curse myself to be one of the other two But yeah, I could see definitely it being a big boon for microsoft if they went that route a lot of Microsoft I think it'll be microsoft because I think the back to your point you're making and run I think it makes the most sense for them, right? I think you're talking about these awesome studios that make awesome games that are that you know, Phil's I think Phil's Spencer's gotta be over there just doing this right and I'm like the mr. Burns or boy in the way of like this is perfect This is the charity. Yeah, exactly.

This is the first party stable We're assembling and we've talked about making games for gamers and doing all the stuff So you can pick up rock study if you can pick up nether realm if you can get these studios in house on your team Whether or not you treat them like moyang right and you it's Minecraft and guess what Minecraft is still everywhere We're so whatever, you know, if and I don't even this is way above my page, right? But you know if rock steady really is working on a suicide squad game and we bought them but it's so far along of course We're gonna publish that everywhere and be their next game That's exclusive if any or whatever like yeah, there's a million like businessy things to get to but I think that you look at that Microsoft and having bought Minecraft you look at them and having gotten ninja theory and assembled this thing like we understand to an extent You know our biggest failing with Xbox one was not having the first party lineup people wanted right something to compete with PlayStation If you can get these studios in under that thing I mean even if you you know TT games like right in the lego games that people adore as kids games like that this every studio I think you talk about in wv games right now that would be a part of this deal fits with Microsoft thing where there It is a TT games It's making something for young kids and families or whatever or you're talking about something that is rock steady and whatever They're next you know huge triple a living breathing world You're gonna be in it like obviously if you want to get like rock steady in a Batman game that makes sense to keep on Xbox But if we're the lego games you should put those everywhere just like you put them out like put out my Everything and again everything where we're playing fast and loose with right is that again? These are talented studios that work with already third party IP So I bet that if I'm Lego if I'm DC this happens and we go to where you negotiate I'm like awesome. No, I still want these on everything like this unless you're giving us a dump truck But money which again like yourself might and that's what I'd imagine like jumping off what everyone's saying It's like I do think that it's like yeah for Ross They whatever they're doing it's like they push to get the exclusivity there But the license is they push to get them everywhere kind of like the obsidian deal with out of worlds where it's like that was all Pre-done or whatever so yeah, yeah, it's exactly like that regardless guess what out of worlds on game pass right?

Yeah, and you look at the imagine if the Lego games were now on game pass It's like sure you can buy them on the PS5 but you could just get them on game pass Yeah, yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah That is like the higher game prices thing like let's say that Suicide squad is a game that is on every system, but it's 70 bucks on PS5 and it's free Yeah, that's actually a really good point like what if you rock like the Batman game or whatever the fuck Ross He's doing whatever Ross it in general wasn't exclusive it was everywhere But it's on game pass like that's a crazy crazy good deal and that seems like the kind of stuff that Microsoft's gonna be going for right like We already talked about this you know to death with me But like they've built this strong foundation and now I think Xbox Series X this generation is capitalizing on that and having all these programs And making them work for you where you look at it and you're talking about what the best deal in gaming is and how that translates to which console you actually buy Yeah, imagine yeah, they could be stopped back to like them buying all these companies because personally I have been either Not very interested in a lot of the purchases they've made or been kind of like okay Those are smaller things or they're kind of like these like double fine Where it's like that's cool and it's gonna be great But like that's not the kind of like insomnia level purchases of what you know what you're gonna mean And you look back at kind of a couple of those like rare and in my opinion They're not making the games that I want to play you know It's like Microsoft buying rare wasn't what it sounded like back in the day correctly if I'm wrong But like we all kind of expected that to be a holy shit This is a game changer and it kind of just made rare lesser than what it used to be before Microsoft bought them And it's been a long time since we've seen something like that But I think that with this there's so many talented studios that have such amazing kind of like games or like Archetypes of games that they have like when you look at the Batman games doesn't need to be just Batman You can apply that to suicide's water whatever and it's gonna work equally well fingers crossed hopefully we kind of imagine But then you look at another realm and it's like great. They got more combat like they own that that's fine That's theirs sure they don't own injustice But that's a licensed way for him being able to have that like this is way more exciting to me than a lot of the purchases They've made potentially in the past like with the exception of making new things like initiative where I'm like That's an unknown quantity that they've messaged as a rival to Sony Santa Monica Like that's kind of a statement that they're making with that You know and I think that this would be very exciting for the industry and very exciting for the race of exclusivity and like making me more Interested in Xbox exclusives, which is something that I'm with the exception of Halo totally not right now So you're gonna Microsoft acquisitions can I throw like an unsolicited one out there? I think a Very logical smaller city of the pickup is armature The former retro studios former Metroid Prime slash people who worked on record with Microsoft published studio It is new stuff.

They just announced I don't know because they work on a surprising number of things They get very low credit for any of them Yeah, but like I I can easily see the next I've picked them up and saying hey We're gonna hook you up in another studio one that knows Unreal Engine 4 or whatever and have them have you guys work on it open world FTS adventure game. It's like Metroid Prime. We're not gonna say like Metroid Prime kind of it Do you think that would push the needle though? I don't think so but it adds more to your portfolio Like I think Microsoft's end goal as the other generation is to be thought of for their first party software as good as Nintendo is It's a very difficult to ever hit like rev up the end of that point But honestly if you get like very you get comparisons here and there like you get rare on things that actually go that See if they just turn out to be a fantastic thing that is Nintendo like in quality of the kind of game they want to make I can see them Reaching for that portfolio or that diverse portfolio then so just here's what moves the needle It's more like here's what we think of in terms of Microsoft mind share because honestly I was Sony has that too and beginning of last generation beginning of PS3 generation You wouldn't have really thought that about Sony So he was a third party company then Microsoft kind of took that make up for a little bit And then so he built up a first party portfolio that kind of dwarf Microsoft's partly because of their own fault But I think they're trying to get back in that arena before we move on Let me tell you about our sponsors ladies and gentlemen this episode of kind of when a game's cast is brought to you by Express VPN I know most of you are probably thinking why don't you just use incognito mode to hide other people from knowing what you're looking at Let me tell you something incognito mode does not hide your activity It doesn't matter what mode you use or how many times you clear your browsing history your internet service provider can still see every single website You've ever visited that's why I've been using Express Express VPN to make sure that I am totally good totally covered It doesn't matter if you get your internet from rising or Comcast or Sonic like I do ISPs in the US can legally sell your information to ad companies that's I'm scary So Express VPN is an app that reroutes your internet connection through their secure servers So your ISP can't see the sites that you visit Express VPN also keeps all the information secure by encrypting 100% your data with the most powerful encryption available Most of the time you don't even realize the average recipe can running It just kind of does its thing in the background and makes sure that you're safe that you're secure and no one's looking at your stuff And it's also available in all of your different devices phones computers smart TV Really you should just be using it everywhere to make sure that your internet is a okay Protect your online activity today with a VPN rated number one by CNET and Wired Visit the exclusive link expressvpn.com slash kind of funny and you can get an extra three months free on a one-year package That's eXPRES VPN dot com slash kind of funny express VPN dot com slash kind of funny to learn more Do you think that they're targeting Nintendo and not Sony?

I think I'm talking to Sony but I think you target Sony by having something more compelling than them And the thing okay so I think about Sony is we've kind of discussed a little bit but a lot of their single player narrative games While being amazing games that sell incredibly well tend to top it out around 22 million which is a huge number don't get me wrong But those are when you compare them to other big games like Games in industry they're kind of drops in the bucket And if you want to get that group of people are not that group You want to get group people who are necessarily totally bought in on the idea of single player narrative games being the only types of games they play You do want to have a diverse portfolio That's kind of like a Nintendo's plus your own diverse portfolio of like ninja theory and 343 and stuff like that We're like the mention earlier of job details games of like the lego games as an example Microsoft has always made these like kind of paltry attempts to get a family game system going to like banjo kazooing and things like that Why not actually just make it a major part of your initiative that if you want good looking games that are like not on the switch But our family friendly we have those where you hear and they kind of can't get them anywhere else I mean, but can't you on PlayStation with like ratchet and rarely Okay, let's say you're a someone who who I family games to be playing mostly games with your family For this summer on the ps4 There's the last of us. There's Iron Man. There's got sashima two of those games are right out One of those games is inherently someone isolating. It's not exactly a living room family situation Yeah, and I'm kind of with that too like if you look at placations Portfolio towards the family games go like you have a little big planet, which I think you know, where's pretty well You have after about you have a knack and ration claim quite a few other things I don't think any of those become a level as the lego games do or speak on in not in terms of like game quality But in terms of hey, I am a person taking up a console for my family for my kids for all this play together I feel like lego speaks on that level a bit better and then also like what Nintendo has going on with Mario and all the different Nintendo games speak very well on that level I mean, yeah, I think it's just you know how what a move it would be to have rock steady cc and the games that they've done already on The thing because I think when you look at it's just it's such a huge punch from Microsoft in the way that like armature's cool for nerds like us We know they do cool shit, but I just that was like when they're like in exile like okay cool, you know, you're all right Yeah, you're getting I'm glad you're getting more studios.

I don't even really what do they do kind of thing You know, I'm sitting in got a pop I think because of their history But also obviously because we're on the verge of outer worlds when we're all excited about that and we was previewing well and stuff Oh shit great like they have so many of those like middling cool studios They do cool things, but they're not fucking all you got they're not somebody Santa Monica They're not even sucker punch and so I think they come out and be like cool now We have fucking TT games and now we have a at Boone and now we have a rock steady But holy shit, all right. These are people and names you really know and really care about I got a couple questions for you guys about What greatest one off on rock steady? What are they are they a sucker punch? Are they below are they above?

Are they higher than soccer? They're high there in Sonic. That's what I mean. Yeah, I mean Yeah, I mean, yeah I think the difference that insomniac has like multiple teams and are like they do action clank and spider-man Whereas rock steady pretty much does spider-man or Batman in their case Um, but I do see them on that level right like I think an excitement from or an announcement from um from rock steady on the xbox I would get the same pop as a spider-man from the Sony side.

Absolutely. So then okay moving on from that Mortal Kombat Since the 90s it's been Mortal Kombat versus Street Fighter What do you think is actually a bigger deal now with PlayStation or at least having exclusive on Street Fighter 5 Whether or not it's exclusive. I think having game pass would be a huge enough win in their ownership of it All where it's like even if it's selling on a PlayStation Microsoft still making money It's like that would be a win for Mortal Kombat. Do you think Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter are the bigger deals in 2020?

Also, it's two different audiences like Street Fighter the entry fighter means you have the fighting game community under your belt Yeah, those numbers my Mortal Kombat trombone says over Street Fighter great. It's the best song fighting game between all of them So like it's not like they're kind of fighting for scraps a little bit there But Mortal Kombat has sold better every iteration this past since nine So if you get that you have a very good selling fighting game and if you are Microsoft who wants to maybe bring back kill rins thing Or you want to get into more on that verse killer instinct boom. There you go Or you have maybe another realm instead of like instead of injustice and licensing that you license or you get them Killers things that they do with it or even like and maybe this is too far-fetched But you make an Xbox style fighting game like you have another realm do that and like yeah The gears guys in there get halo characters in there Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, I was thinking about that like a game like that the other day was like oh How how pissed people be when they like do a character show on this John Locke was the name lock the guy from Halo 5 Halo 5 lock. Yeah.

Yeah, this is like this is who I wanted what the fuck you guys do Do we have to be a PlayStation also as a better way out very sorry? I mean you understand what I'm talking about Yeah, they they don't unless it's better way out that just rip off the game just whatever Just go 100% they'll go 95 go 100 go 100 go But that's the thing that great we've talked about this so many times in Mortal Kombat But back when I g and like the Mortal Kombat videos did insane numbers anytime There's a trailer a character reveal a update on specials or DLC or whatever it is like guest character or not Those trailers did insane numbers that were like dwarfing anything else that would come out Is not only a cultural phenomenon that everybody's played or cared about at least one iteration of it right and understands what it is It's also this convergence point of all these different forms of pop culture right of like whether it be the ninja turtles or Freddy Krueger Whoever the hell else is coming over to this game Terminator that is in this insane mashup game with these crazy fatalities and this crazy other stuff And yeah, I think I personally think that and this is again I'm on nails and I'm like these are way different fighters right one is the one that is for fighting game purists and fans and that audience The other is I think the mainstream fighting game and in that argument for Microsoft making moves I think the mainstream fighting game means way more yeah Especially with the single player element like all of a sudden you have a single player and multiplayer game that is equally fun in both ways And can be played just one or the other or both and it's a it's a win for people like looking back at last generation Of course we have smash brothers that's like this Nintendo crossover and it's now become kind of just video game crossover But so caliber was the as far as I'm concerned original kind of who gives a fuck about rules Let's have crossover characters because it's it's fun and it's a neat thing and it'll get a huge pop And that's obviously started with so calvertu with the three characters But then moving even on to so calvert foreign five when you got like the anakin and yoda and all that stuff Exactly all that Mortal Kombat kind of took that into this generation and and like made it cool Like it has spawned it's like around yeah Exactly more comment I had had fucking cradles in it right and that was that was when the game kind of came back and rebooted Like came back at something bigger and since then they've been on this upward sweep where I don't know how Mortal Kombat 11 is doing compared to Mortal Kombat 10 But either way like pressure is back Like Mortal Kombat as a franchise just hits home in a way that like other fighting games don't and for note Another realm as a studio like if there's market software to acquire them That's the opening out that calvert game every two years because the other one put out games every two years Which would be a really big get to a friend who watched me and blessing play Mortal Kombat on stream Then he because he likes bond so he went and watched a video just of all those spawns lines with everybody every character There's like fuck it. This looks cool. I just bought the game had never played a Mortal Kombat game before just bought it because he liked that one thing I think we can just do game pass.

Yeah like By that game for the uh the story mode just like oh, I was gonna subscribe to game pass and like five months later They still have it we're talking a lot about this hypothetical Microsoft buying wb games. I love it. They did one would it be? I think any deal would have to take To actually announce a buy would probably be earliest October to actually incorporate all of them would be like next summer And I still think they have to finish everything they working on contractually right because they have you bought even bring rock city and like I don't think They're next game which we assume a suicide squad is going to be released by next summer So I think it would be this whole thing of I mean it could be I guess I possibly could be this ring game But I think you'd have to get through all that same thing that we saw with out of worlds Putting is that is that would that even be a loss if they can still pull the game pass card?

Oh, no, of course not. I mean that's yeah I mean game pass is already the best dealing gaming to be able to come out and be like we're adding these whatever three studios We're talking about right now with see the uh another realm and uh rock steady if you let alone it is that either is there another one? I'm forgetting about that. That's who we're talking about is there another one another one for you?

Thank you All right, yeah, yeah, right, right, right. No, it gets so it gets so muddled up right of like that's the cordial Batman game, right? Assumely in the yes, but yeah, and anybody else at all, you know, I mean the Harry Potter people whatever the fun Like if you can come out and say that we've done this they're all getting out of the game pass There's so much that from yeah again and then again It's just arguing if it gains our 70 bucks again, and you still leave it at 9.99 or you can buy game pass now You know whatever and get some crazy deal for it like that's gonna be a huge fucking deal. That should be it's a great service So moving on I don't want to go too deep into everything that's going on for the rest of the summer game best stuff I have very specific questions.

We obviously have Xbox game showcase coming up very soon Yeah, you'll be soft show come up within days. I want to jump past that. I want to the Xbox August show and the PlayStation August show or September or whatever the fuck it was supposed to be August both in August, right? Am I right about that?

Which is the place that you buried me the point buried we're talking on the state of play Have they announced it? They have announced it, but like the Jeffy grub come through summer. Jeffy grub was full of Jeffy grub shit shit Alright, I'm gonna play the play on this day one. I believe it I'm gonna have a show around various games week or teaching s so August sounds about right We also have been opening night live or whatever well So that's what I'm talking about pretty much the three things that I do want to give kind of like predictions for are Xboxes Next conference whatever the lock heart reveal whatever that is the PlayStation state of play that may or may not happen But we're gonna assume it's gonna happen and then August 28 through 30th or August 27th specifically Which is the game's calm opening night live?

What do we see at those events? Because really what I'm asking is what does Xbox hold back from this event that they show at their next event And what's this PlayStation either respond to the second event or the first Xbox? Which is Christ you're I mean you know whiteboard They're playing chicken in terms of price. Yeah Come on say that yeah to make it simple PlayStation's at event one Know that PlayStation's event to and Xbox is events one and two are coming Like Xbox ahead of everyone No, that doesn't count.

You know, this is the party Xbox event is it? I'm not counting that because they don't fucking count it. They're real That in the Xbox versus the Xbox showcase. Okay, as far as Xbox is next event one I don't think they're holding I don't think they hold back anything like I don't think you mean that right Well, that's a lot cart well I'm talking about because we're talking about like the first party game reveals or Xbox which is the thing the July event I don't think the whole back games at all is what I'm saying I think we get Basically their full layout of what their first party output is gonna be as far as what they want to show us right now Um, and so I think with that we obviously see more about about Halo Infinite I think we see gameplay for how blights and this sacrifice.

I think we see the next words uh, um, We see ever wild from rare and we basically get the full layout of what they want us to know as far as first party I do think we then yeah next month get lock heart and Whether I mean I could see them like maybe revealing that during games combo opening that live because they revealed Xbox series x at game awards So it's not necessarily beyond them to do that. Um, but yeah if they were to do Some sort of their own event than yeah, I think we get it I think we then get prices on what Xbox series x is and what Xbox series s or lock heart. What do you call it is? Um, and then for opening night live I think we we maybe see Xbox exclusive But if we do those within third party games, um that they've made deals with at most I don't think we see exclusive reveals um, like first party reveals at opening night live by means What was opening night live last year?

It was the big destination reveal and a couple of like smaller indie games like it's a helicopter game That's literally all remember from it. I'm gonna try looking back now But I do think that we get more this year it being the season finale of summer games fast I mean jeff kelly is nothing if not a good hype man So I we'll see what that actually means But I mean look as far as i'm concerned he brought Tony house bro skater he bought For the summer game's best exclusive things And if he's looking at this thing being a big season finale obviously I understand that those aren't like Necessarily the most exciting triple a things but like they are exciting they're both gonna sell though very well Like they're big deals even if they're not like I don't know actually i take it back they are exciting Well, let me throw this out there because jeff kelly he has revealed a smash with his character before That might be in line with time to actually reveal one again Especially a very high point And actually I was gonna say speaking to smash usually when they have a big third party character as a part of that game That leads to the company who gave lights in the character going like actually this is popular Why aren't we making a game with them because then we got that new mega man design the design came when they're gonna live in Then now that we have a major because we I can see my cuz i'm going why don't we make a new man james a new game With this with the design isn't rare working on too much right now though I don't know how big they are but like they've got C of these and the the director of c of the eve is just said He finished up that project and he has not been announced to work on anything else He was also the director of the first two-band joke games What if we what if we buy TT games and make them make new manjo That I mean just make all the pieces jiggies and you basically have So i'm looking at games com 2019 opening night live a recap from a site called SACAD gamer, which is interesting but there's a there was Gears of War five the new campaign story trailer A game called command from tsu Nordic Command Dcl the game also from tsu Nordic need for speed heat had gameplay shown Kerbal space program two was announced a little nightmares to you was also announced predator hunting grounds had game play shown They had a world premiere of the monster hunter iceborn expansion a game called the cycle and then um world Mirrors for life strange to episode four and then humankind Game that I do not remember borderlands three got gameplay shown every space to uh, which is three completed edition for switch was announced So fifea 20 volts history, which I never got to play. I was actually very excited about that but I forgot that Disintegration guilt. Oh, they miss both.

It's yeah guilt for its google stadium That one game destiny to shadow keep and then like it was kind of goes on with a few other things You know erica, which was like a shadow drop that day port royale for iron harvest Um, and then that yeah the hibio kuchima big long section on destiny that showed the game plan stuff I legit forgot to say that you mentioned it right now They have a connect literally this month don't they yeah, they're coming right up. It's next week. I'm 14th 10 a.m. We'll be live twitch.tv such a Yeah, I mean, so okay, you listen those games like that's not very exciting, but I that was their first one You know you listen that sucks Yeah, exactly.

Um, but like looking at this year especially with it being somewhere getting this in the way that they talked about the beginning I do kind of expect at least One or two things that make you go. Oh shit. That's cool in a similar way to game awards where I feel like over the last couple years They've gotten better like since she's gained since kiwi's gained independence of game awards and how that he's dealt with it Like he's gotten bigger and bigger announcements And I think that having like that second year round thing where it's like I mean not exactly in the halfway point But especially now in year where e3 doesn't exist like I do think that I expect more from this year than I did last year If I think about it big I hope that there's surprises and stuff like you're talking about but it's just a different year I feel especially as it's been so drawn out this whole nadi 3e3 where there's some you know multiple Apparently state of play is multiple xbox showcases and one that wasn't a showcase like there's so many things going on There's only so much thing to go so I see this season finale Jeff talking about having announcements having brand new things more of the mid-tier double-a variety And then the major party's coming and doing extended looks like going more the way of death stranding right and being like cool You know we you know it's Jeff talking that's like you know how you know back in June you got to see A spider-man artist. Oh, no June miles Morales.

They can't you know debuted We're gonna show you the first, you know three minutes of the first mission or something like that kind of thing You have that and then something from halo infinite and then yeah, hopefully you have announcements in there But I don't know I don't think it's in PlayStation or xbox's best interest a whole big announcement for that thing in that way I also forgot that there was a game called remothered broken porcelain that was shown off At game calm and so you know there were some really exciting announcements Exactly game time would be a good place to show it and that's big like that's what I'm talking about I'm not saying that it's gonna have hell of big announcements But it just needs one thing that makes you go. Oh shit. That's where this was announced like sure games calm opening night live needs a moment where it's like Oh fuck like big announcements can happen there last of us was announced at game awards Like that's that was a moment that forever changed where game awards could be and they've proven time and time again They can continue that level of oh shit. They've messed up a couple times.

Thank you Con one of those examples, but hey They made a lot of good moves I think that they need that for opening night live and if Jeff's exclusive show so far have only been Tony Hawk and Crash Band cute granted Two activation titles like that are multi-plan a little bit different I think that with the way that he's been hyping up and he's been pretty good about hyping things correctly When we look at all the different stakeholders in this Nonnie three, I think that Jeff is the one that has been the best about explaining what is about to happen And so far he's been like look we're getting crash or we're getting something cool and it was Tony Hawk We're getting something cool is crash band cute We're getting something that is going to change games and it was unreal five right? Like those are things that I give him more ownership of than anyone else And the last thing that he has like full ownership of is this where he's been calling it a season finale And that's a big deal that is building hype in a way that isn't just like this is kind of cool Do you think that he will get a breath of the wild to trailer? He has gone That's a good one seeing that's all he needs if he has more than that right? I'm like here's a whole bunch of recap is we heading to this console war Here's what's you know xbox a place you want to show you here's some new indies Here's this new thing from a established a bla and then yeah, and it here's breath of wilds.

Oh my god I didn't even think about it. Yeah, of course it's Nintendo because there's like three years Like a trailer a gameplay thing and then DLC the next year Yeah, I love it I think it's like that's something you might want to hold for game awards If you're deaf like if you're deaf keel you're able to you know make that call of okay Yeah, I can choose this announcement for one. I feel like that's one where you'd be like Alright the game was out before game awards Oh I was gonna have the opposite direction like what if there's no game awards because like to know like Do you just how there's a stream that just yeah? Do you think I do that?

Yeah, I think that no matter what there's game awards and I think yeah worst case scenario It's jeff on green or jeff from home doing it or whatever He has messages from the developers who want and then church is way in the backyard Film it kills man It was invited here So anyways though, I think I think you can blow your wallet here I think you can go and season finale in august and have something as big as breath of wild to because by the time knock on fucking wood We get to where game awards would be in december there will be not silence in terms of announcements But it'll just bend this next gen it'll be the next gen war and it'll be the war of just every other Trying to get your game out by black friday Like people generally don't announce shit during those time periods Right because they're building up to getting things sold and then you can go to december and have it be the first salvo in Alright now let's talk about it's coming in 2021 I honestly like I would put money not a lot of money But I would put some amount of money three dollars correct three dollars bet right now Um the game awards gets pushed to january of every way of next year I think it'd be i think january would be the goal because like I don't think just trying to fuck with The gdc and dice and all that those awards like he respects that they exist and I think that he wants other award shows to be there But I think that with all the feedback people have seen with cyberpunk getting delayed and they're just understanding that if game awards is going to be first We get december there has to be a cut-off point that's realistic and that means that cyberpunk's not going to make the cut And so many of these these game launches are gonna make the cut and I know that's been the truth for other generations and other years and other games But I think that it's different now and there's more control of ownership We can do this whenever we want why we holding it to this and sure After the second week of december so it's like there is that thing of it is it is a nice reset point from a pr standpoint But things are different everything's changed in the last couple of everything's changed again this year so I think i'm with you that you move it, but I think you keep it to december I don't think jeff wants to You know jeff knows how to market his stuff and knows how to make an event and he knows that people looking forward to game awards And we look forward to game awards in december I think you could let it slip later in december and not have people be like where's game awards like they would understand it's coming and hey You can you can message it around like we've heard you loud and clear You know it was a big deal for fallen order last year that it didn't get you know the right it didn't come in for nominations Yeah, yeah, so we've addressed that and this year we're pushing it to mid december right that the last week before it goes on break Even who knows we'll have any breaks this year like I don't think he wants to let that go And I also think there's part of it wrapped up in the fact that you know even though yeah, there's dice and there's gdc awards, right like When we come back from break and it's the new year you want to talk with the new stuff That's how it inevitably goes right and I was always to struggle at ijian when we're doing game of the year there When do you do it where we want to do it in the year? We're in because that's the conversation every time but it doesn't give you a lot of time to play but when you play and come back And there's less fanfare around it because now you are as soon as we come back it starts spinning up again of what's gonna happen this year and what's happening this Right, but they've all moved right ijians moved in I'm really really not Correctly they moved to january and I think that that's the thing i'm just kind of taking ownership and of things changing and I think that would just Now yeah, right is that was that for this coming year was that this last year last year was last year was December I might be wrong, but like I remember that there were at least some of the big guys kind of pushed to at least Like they published in this always hard. Sorry, but it looks like it published on December 10th 2019 That might be updated january 13th. So yeah, I don't know what that means Maybe it was nominations and then like I think it really came out I don't know but my point is I think things have changed especially this year with summer game fest being the replacement for e3 Was one week summer game fest is ending in august having a big event in december is A lot closer and there's not as much kind of room for announcements and shit I think that we're in a new world where it's not exciting to know what's coming next year.

It's exciting to know what's coming this year All that's true, but it's like I just think that if they were to go in january like let's look back at the actual full year of 2020 of the games that came out that year like any any game that came out from january 1st to december Uh 31st, but in addition to I guess from November from last year because there was that one month and a half gap or whatever from November 16th Last year, but then before do the awards for that that's still gonna be exciting to people It was is such a big year for games and then hey, there's new announcements here some height Yeah, I think if you're gonna do it this year would be the perfect excuse to do it with the event probably going to be a Extreme digital event like you don't have to necessarily plan and organize for people showing up and for Facilities and all these different stuff like you have the the flexibility to be like hey Yeah, let's just do this in january because we're just we're organizing this by ourselves Um, and so I think if it's gonna happen it's gonna happen this year, but I don't I don't know how much the the way of Games coming out way in the year has on jeff keelie I feel like a big part of game awards is like advertisements and is sponsorship is like announcements And I feel like that stuff kind of takes precedence over the the actual awards themselves as much as like Has been used in game fest this year. It's like that's all stuff that like the longer You can kind of separate and have the same sponsors come back again Like that's where the money is it's like getting the same guys that are sponsoring game fest right now to come back in december Is gonna be a tall order. I know that's why that ball away That's what I mean first off the record. I looked it up and finally found it out here december 10th 2019 I gen announced controlled game of the year so they went even earlier than usual Uh, but picking back off what you're saying.

I wonder if you get creative about it and you put up You have it be you know, it's summer game fest right but it's game the game awards month or whatever where yeah, okay Cool. We're worried about like We're worried about let's you know cyberpunk. We're worried about cyberpunk getting in there So we'll start with fighting game of the year We'll do racing game of the year every you know every Tuesday and Thursday for the month We're putting out three award categories and having a win till we build to game of the year that third week or whatever That would be actually like a really crazy idea like a cool crazy idea if there's a chef was just like Yeah, let's just do winter game fest spread out all the announcement spread out all the announcements with it You know you bundle every two the three awards of two announcements. You have a whole bunch of different sponsors in there All these different yeah Just never ends I love to see it.

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