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华为的「韬定律」,是创新还是噱头?| Bonus

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2026 年 5 月 25 日,在上海举行的 IEEE 国际电路与系统研讨会(ISCAS 2026)上,华为公司董事、半导体业务部总裁何庭波发表主旨演讲,正式提出"韬(τ)定律"。韬定律的核心主张是:以"时间(τ)缩微"替代"几何缩微"作为半导体与电子系统演进的新指导原则,以系统性降低时间常数 τ 为核心,通过逻辑折叠(Logic Folding)等技术,持续压缩芯片内部的信号传播时延,从而不断提升晶体管密度。 消息发布后,A 股芯片板块强势拉升,科创 50 指数再创历史新高。社交网络上,舆论则呈现出截然不同的两种声音:看多的一方认为这是国产芯片的重大突破,直呼"华为终结摩尔定律";看空的一方则毫不客气,质疑韬定律不过是把基础概念包装成了产业定律,"华为掀翻摩尔定律"之类的标题被认为言过其实。 王炸还是噱头?这期加更节目,雅娴请来了前新思科技高级工程师、公众号「傅里叶的猫」主理人张海军,来帮我们拆解三个问题:韬定律究竟是什么,逻辑折叠这个核心创新点和现有 3D 封装技术到底有什么本质区别,以及要真正落地还需要跨过哪些现实的门槛。 本期人物 Yaxian,「科技早知道」主播 张海军,前新思科技高级工程师、公众号「傅里叶的猫」主理人 时间轴 [01:07] 华为韬定律发布,市场为什么这么兴奋? [02:27] 衡量标准的改变:从纳米制程到时间常数,底层逻辑变了什么? [03:02] 逻辑折叠(Logic Folding)是什么?和现有 3D 封装技术有何本质区别? [05:23] 台积电 CoWoS、AMD 3D V-Cache 都有 3D 堆叠——华为的创新点究竟在哪里? [06:25] 营销噱头?反对声音怎么说 [07:30] 英伟达、谷歌为什么没走华为这条路? [09:17] 华为说已有 381 款芯片基于涛定律——Cell-to-Cell 堆叠真的落地了吗? [10:57] 是真突破还是噱头? [13:25] 落地最大的瓶颈:EDA 工具和封装工艺都还不到位 [14:31] 华为放话 2031 年等效 1.4 纳米——这个目标夸张吗? 名词解释 Die-to-Die 堆叠 成熟 3D 封装技术,将 两颗完整独立裸片(Die)垂直堆叠,芯片设计完成后再封装集成,耦合度低、互联相对宽松,是目前主流方案。 Cell-to-Cell 堆叠 华为逻辑折叠核心技术,在芯片设计初期就对内部最小功能单元(Cell)做垂直堆叠,互联更紧密、信号路径更短,需全新 EDA 工具支撑,暂未量产落地。 *逻辑折叠 Logic Folding * 韬定律核心创新技术,Cell 与 Cell 级垂直堆叠,区别于普通 3D 封装,从芯片设计阶段就做 3D 集成,缩短信号路径、提升密度。 幕后制作 监制:Yaxian 后期:迪卡 运营:George 设计:饭团 商业合作 声动活泼商业化小队,点击链接直达声动商务会客厅(https://sourl.cn/9h28kj ),也可发送邮件至 [email protected] 联系我们。 加入声动活泼 声动活泼正在招聘全职商务运营经理、早咖啡内容实习生和社群实习生,如果你也对播客行业的内容制作感兴趣,欢迎点击招聘入口 关于声动活泼 「用声音碰撞世界」,声动活泼致力于为人们提供源源不断的思考养料。 我们还有这些播客:声动早咖啡、声东击西、吃喝玩乐了不起、反潮流俱乐部、泡腾 VC、商业WHY酱、跳进兔子洞 、不止金钱 欢迎在即刻、微博等社交媒体上与我们互动,搜索 声动活泼 即可找到我们。 期待你给我们写邮件,邮箱地址是:[email protected] 欢迎扫码添加声小音,在节目之外和我们保持联系。Special Guest: 张海军.

2026 年 5 月 25 日,在上海举行的 IEEE 国际电路与系统研讨会(ISCAS 2026)上,华为公司董事、半导体业务部总裁何庭波发表主旨演讲,正式提出"韬(τ)定律"。韬定律的核心主张是:以"时间(τ)缩微"替代"几何缩微"作为半导体与电子系统演进的新指导原则,以系统性降低时间常数 τ 为核心,通过逻辑折叠(Logic Folding)等技术,持续压缩芯片内部的信号传播时延,从而不断提升晶体管密度。 消息发布后,A 股芯片板块强势拉升,科创 50 指数再创历史新高。社交网络上,舆论则呈现出截然不同的两种声音:看多的一方认为这是国产芯片的重大突破,直呼"华为终结摩尔定律";看空的一方则毫不客气,质疑韬定律不过是把基础概念包装成了产业定律,"华为掀翻摩尔定律"之类的标题被认为言过其实。 王炸还是噱头?这期加更节目,雅娴请来了前新思科技高级工程师、公众号「傅里叶的猫」主理人张海军,来帮我们拆解三个问题:韬定律究竟是什么,逻辑折叠这个核心创新点和现有 3D 封装技术到底有什么本质区别,以及要真正落地还需要跨过哪些现实的门槛。 本期人物 Yaxian,「科技早知道」主播 张海军,前新思科技高级工程师、公众号「傅里叶的猫」主理人 时间轴 [01:07] 华为韬定律发布,市场为什么这么兴奋? [02:27] 衡量标准的改变:从纳米制程到时间常数,底层逻辑变了什么? [03:02] 逻辑折叠(Logic Folding)是什么?和现有 3D 封装技术有何本质区别? [05:23] 台积电 CoWoS、AMD 3D V-Cache 都有 3D 堆叠——华为的创新点究竟在哪里? [06:25] 营销噱头?反对声音怎么说 [07:30] 英伟达、谷歌为什么没走华为这条路? [09:17] 华为说已有 381 款芯片基于涛定律——Cell-to-Cell 堆叠真的落地了吗? [10:57] 是真突破还是噱头? [13:25] 落地最大的瓶颈:EDA 工具和封装工艺都还不到位 [14:31] 华为放话 2031 年等效 1.4 纳米——这个目标夸张吗? 名词解释 Die-to-Die 堆叠 成熟 3D 封装技术,将 两颗完整独立裸片(Die)垂直堆叠,芯片设计完成后再封装集成,耦合度低、互联相对宽松,是目前主流方案。 Cell-to-Cell 堆叠 华为逻辑折叠核心技术,在芯片设计初期就对内部最小功能单元(Cell)做垂直堆叠,互联更紧密、信号路径更短,需全新 EDA 工具支撑,暂未量产落地。 *逻辑折叠 Logic Folding * 韬定律核心创新技术,Cell 与 Cell 级垂直堆叠,区别于普通 3D 封装,从芯片设计阶段就做 3D 集成,缩短信号路径、提升密度。 幕后制作 监制:Yaxian 后期:迪卡 运营:George 设计:饭团 商业合作 声动活泼商业化小队,点击链接直达声动商务会客厅(https://sourl.cn/9h28kj ),也可发送邮件至 [email protected] 联系我们。 加入声动活泼 声动活泼正在招聘全职商务运营经理、早咖啡内容实习生和社群实习生,如果你也对播客行业的内容制作感兴趣,欢迎点击招聘入口 关于声动活泼 「用声音碰撞世界」,声动活泼致力于为人们提供源源不断的思考养料。 我们还有这些播客:声动早咖啡、声东击西、吃喝玩乐了不起、反潮流俱乐部、泡腾 VC、商业WHY酱、跳进兔子洞 、不止金钱 欢迎在即刻、微博等社交媒体上与我们互动,搜索 声动活泼 即可找到我们。 期待你给我们写邮件,邮箱地址是:[email protected] 欢迎扫码添加声小音,在节目之外和我们保持联系。Special Guest: 张海军.

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2026 年 5 月 25 日,在上海举行的 IEEE 国际电路与系统研讨会(ISCAS 2026)上,华为公司董事、半导体业务部总裁何庭波发表主旨演讲,正式提出"韬(τ)定律"。韬定律的核心主张是:以"时间(τ)缩微"替代"几何缩微"作为半导体与电子系统演进的新指导原则,以系统性降低时间常数 τ 为核心,通过逻辑折叠(Logic Folding)等技术,持续压缩芯片内部的信号传播时延,从而不断提升晶体管密度。 消息发布后,A 股芯片板块强势拉升,科创 50...

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