Human Persons Are Not Infinite

00:00 Introduction05:25 Competing ideologies09:46 The fundamentals - vision of humanity12:27 Are humans good or evil16:20 Are people evil or deluded?19:46 Can we agree on what good & evil are?22:55 The sinless passions25:29 Issues of identity28:00 The Prince of Peace is Born!31:44 Too much Emmanuel Kant33:36 Christmas proclaims Love Incarnate35:00 Genesis 3, The Lie is "Be Unconstrained"38:12 Optimistic Christianity40:30 The subtle lie of the brazen serpent44:15 Christmas is the beginning of the end of Death47:29 ClosingHuman Persons Are Not Infinite - S7E17We are nearing the end of season seven & Fr Symeon didn't want to miss the opportunity to talk about how the two dominant ideologies in our culture both rely on what we could call an unconstrained vision of humanity - the dream of The Enlightenment still alive. We are suggesting the journey on the way of the life of faithfulness to the evangelion of Jesus, The Christ requires us to accept we are created, finite beings & as a consequence we must have a constrained vision of humanity - the dream of The Enlightenment is not only dead, if it came true, we would become either monsters or animals.Yes, there is a way in which our understanding theosis, divination, is a vision of an unconstrained humanity, we can become divine through grace! And the world's denial of this is a kind of constrained vision. Yes, we see this irony. But for the sake of the conversation, we're framing our thoughts as we outlined them above.This conversation was quite long! So the production team has decided to cut it into three sections this time, not just two.Scripture citations for this episode:Matthew 21:12-17, Mark 11:15-19, Luke 19:45-48, John 2:13-17 - Cleansing of the templeMark 5: 1-20 - Gerasene DemoniacThe Christian Saints Podcast is a joint production of Generative sounds & Paradosis Pavilion. Our hosts are Father Symeon Kees of Iowa City & James John Marks of Chicago.Paradosis Pavilion - https://youtube.com/@paradosispavilion9555https://www.instagram.com/christiansaintspodcasthttps://x.com/podcast_saintshttps://www.facebook.com/christiansaintspodcasthttps://www.threads.net/@christiansaintspodcasthttps://bsky.app/profile/xtiansaintspodcast.bsky.socialIconographic images used by kind permission of Nicholas Papas, who controls distribution rights of these imagesPrints of all of Nick’s work can be found at Saint Demetrius Press - http://www.saintdemetriuspress.comAll music in these episodes is a production of Generative Soundshttps://generativesoundsjjm.bandcamp.comDistribution rights of this episode & all music contained in it are controlled by Generative SoundsCopyright 2021 - 2026