Humanistic and Interspecies

What if leadership isn’t about control, but about connection?In this episode, Tatiana, Lina, Duncan, and Catherine explore humanistic and interspecies leadership: a way of leading that recognises our deep interconnectedness - not only with other people, but with the wider living world.We examine how our actions ripple through systems we’re part of, from the impact of shipping noise on whales highlighted during the United Nations Ocean Decade, to the everyday choices we make in meetings and relationships.This conversation maps a different path:Listen before you lead.Move from head to heart.Shift from dominance to partnership.Check your assumptions.Ground yourself in something larger than your own perspective.Drawing on insights from the books Radical Wholeness and The Anatomy of Peace, we explore presence, empathy and responsibility, and what changes when we see ourselves not as isolated decision-makers, but as stewards within an interconnected whole.If leadership is about shaping the future, the question becomes: how do we lead in a way that honours all life, not just our own voice?Tune in to rethink what leadership really means