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Sep 28, 2026 1 hr

Humanity Under Siege

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In this episode, the Pugs welcome back Dr. Natalie Atwell to discuss her new book, Humanity Under Siege. After more than twenty years as a licensed clinical mental health therapist, Dr. Atwell noticed that the cases were becoming stranger. This led her on a quest to figure out why, and she concluded that there was a spiritual dimension that counseling had largely ignored. She then worked on diagnostic tools that could determine whether “other influences” were causing mental health problems in patients. This book is the result. The Pugs have an engaging conversation with her about her work and a range of related topics surrounding the spiritual dimensions of mental health therapy. Order Humanity Under Siege: The Unseen Realm and the Spiritual War Against the Mind: https://a.co/d/06M3hOF3 Support the Theology Pugcast on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thetheologypugcast?fbclid=IwAR17UHhfzjphO52C_kkZfursA_C784t0ldFix0wyB4fd-YOJpmOQ3dyqGf8 Learn more about First Pres. Battle Ground: https://www.solochristo.org/ Follow Glenn Sunshine on Substack: https://substack.com/@glennsunshine Connect with WileyCraft Productions: https://wileycraftproductions.com/

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  1. 0:00 Introduction to the Hosts
  2. 3:00 Guest Introduction: Natalie Atwell
  3. 5:00 Natalie's New Book Overview
  4. 10:00 Demonization vs. Mental Health
  5. 15:00 Assessment Techniques in Counseling
  6. 20:00 Spiritual Warfare in Mental Health
  7. 25:00 Pushback from the Faith Community
  8. 30:00 Understanding Demonization Categories
  9. 35:00 Strange Experiences Post-COVID
  10. 40:00 Dissociative Identity Disorder Explained
  11. 45:00 Cultural Shift Towards Spiritual Practices
  12. 50:00 Psychedelics in Mental Health Treatment
  13. 55:00 Navigating Spiritual Discussions with Clients
  14. 1:00:00 Conclusion and Book Promotion

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