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We said we were never going to do this movie, but it had an anniversary. I finally decided to go through with it and I want to read this disclaimer that I wrote after watching the movie. I just want to get this out of the way. The question is that this is arguably the best movie that features regularly occurring sexual assault and a violent dog death.
Both of those things in most cases would be a giant note, no thank you. I'm not going to keep watching it. But for reasons that I think we're going to explore today, for some reason this dumb movie doesn't bother me in that field. I think part of it is because it's so fucking ridiculous that it's rubberfish monsters doing everything that I almost block out how truly horrific and awful what's actually happening in Hep This Movie is if you think about it for more than five seconds.
What I'm saying is we're addressing it up front. There's some fucked up shit that happens in this movie. This is also addressing it. Let's talk about this killer fish movie for a little bit.
Well, I heard Scott was ready. I'm just ready to sell him something. I need to get through this. I need to do what you got.
Rainbows and smiles flying monkey for us to discuss this because dear God, I am so worried about what could happen with us. That's a cute can. Well, I... That's what's about cows butt, honestly.
You stop it. You stop it. I went with Kent Falls also. Awkward hug.
Another fun can. And I think that we could just... If we don't want to... I'm glad you addressed it, Matt, but if we didn't want to address maybe the details, we could just call it an awkward hug.
There's a lot of awkward hug in this movie. I think I did a good job of writing a plot description that avoids all of it. But like, this is just... We're not dumb.
We know what's happening. We're just... This is as far as we're going to address. We're going to talk about the movie.
This is probably the movie I feel like we've talked about most that has not been covered. And I'm only on the show part-time. Well, because I don't know about your experiences with this movie, Kyle. This was like a...
When I first even started dipping my toes in the horror for some reason, this was one that my dad showed me. Wow. And like, my dad didn't like horror movies. But this is like a fucked up movie to watch as a kid, honestly, in many respects.
But like, this is one of those movies that I think I watched it so... You know what? Here's my comparison. It is similar to a lot of the other movies that my dad showed me as a kid which were like Porky's, Catty Shack, Revenge of the Nerds.
Yeah. It's of that time period where I watched it so much before I really thought about how horrific the implications of those movies are that like, I can acknowledge and steal a quote from Cat Nightmare. This is an explanation, not an exception type situation. Like, I'm not saying that's okay that this is the case.
I'm just explaining this. I think it's just like, oh, I'm so tied to this source material that it's hard for me to objectively look at it and be like, this is horrific. I just know that it's horrific. But it's already been taken over by 20-something years of nostalgia too strongly to like...
...bother me the way that watching something for the first time now where any of these things would happen, it would affect me so much deeper, I think. And I don't think you're the only one who feels that type of way about humanoids from the deep specifically. You know, like, I see when I went on and I checked letterbox after I watched it, I was just... And checked some of the reviews of my friends.
I was like, oh yeah, everybody sort of feels the sleaze uncomfortableness of it without... And also the undeniably that this is a great creature feature like flick. I was just saying if the gorg is like all of it is like all of it is like... ...and the costumes weren't as intriguing to look at as they were.
This would be such an easy like... ...throw it on the pile and never think about it again. It's easy. But the kills are fucking brutal.
Like it is... Gorg is hell-man. Gorg is like... And the humanoids have like three-inch claws and they use them.
And I think that's... I mean dudes get like their backs ripped open a bunch of times and it's really good. Yeah. I mean behind Kyle is probably the most gnarly of all of them where the dude gets half of his face just ripped off.
Like it is... What did you say about the summer mat? Was there something that we should or shouldn't do during the summer time? Oh you got to say the fuck out of the water.
Okay, okay. That's what it was. I don't know what anybody's thinking they're doing. Anyway, let's dive into the plot description.
I may have written a few little pieces of commentary along the way but I tried to stick to the basics here. The film takes place on a fishing village in California. A group of fishermen catch some type of monster but before they can bring it on to the boat. One of them falls in and is killed as they prepare as another prepares to shoot a flare gun at the creature.
He accidentally blows up the boat killing them all. We are introduced to our main character Jim Hill and his wife Carol as they witness the explosion. Later one of their dolls goes missing and they find its mutilated corpse on the beach. The next night a teen is murdered underwater while a horrible creature rises from the ocean and drags the teenage Peggy Larson away.
Meanwhile, some Hallie Vintriloquist is able to seduce his hot girlfriend which is insane to me. But the creatures attack and kill him and his girlfriend as well. We need to pause there just for a second. Yeah, because that scene is unreal.
And on episode of Phantom of the Pobra, Evan and I joked if Vintriloquist would be a kink for anybody and not just the dummy specifically but the art of throwing your voice around a room but to then to see this ventriloquist dummy and actively and successfully seduce a woman with a very casually too. It wasn't the first time. It seemed like they've done this before and it's a fun bit of business. It's a fun like cute foreplay thing that happens here.
It's crazy. Here's a very quick thing for you. The actor who played this character Billy is David Stressman, an American ventriloquist and stand up comedian and always got it. Oh my god.
This is his only acting role. He is best known for his ventriloquist act featuring Chuck Wood and Ted Ebert. He did kind of suggestive innuendo heavy comedy and performed across New York's comedy clubs and performed at multiple improv performances. And it was during this that he was asked to appear in Roger Corbin's movie, The Cube and The Deep.
So this role was written specifically with him in mind to do a little bit of his like adults only ventriloquist and puns. That's like going on to Carson and doing your ventriloquist but then not doing anything else ever again. You know what I mean? Like there's what he got big enough that Corbin was like I'm gonna put you in a movie kid.
And what do you do after this? Anything? Was that it? No, that's the only thing so far.
Dude he peeks. Incredible. He peeks. What else are you gonna do?
What else are you gonna do? You've got to see full frontal brother and then that's you're just you pack the truck and see full frontal. Yeah, that's true. Well, I don't know it's Corbin.
He might not have gotten paid. Well, we'll dive into that. She's her later on. He is the woman who directed this movie which I am very, it's very interesting because if you read up on her at all she kind of got started in X-rated movies like adult films in the 70s and then she was kind of like a PA for TV shows.
And she was one of only two women working at New World in the late 70s and they offered this to Daudante. And he said no thanks and she had been sick and she needed money and so she just took the job. Now, I think that also makes this movie more watchable because... Well, I might take that for a second but continue.
I was gonna say I think that makes it a little bit more watchable because there is a woman at least partially behind the camera. I know that there was another director that is uncredited but I think that especially when Peggy is she the one who... She's the one that they find alive. Yeah, yeah.
That scene is arguably the... Well, I don't know. Actually, maybe the girl with the ventriloquist boyfriend is the more aggressive essay scene because there is a little bit of like a humping movement. I was gonna say the Peggy one I actually think is done...
We'll get into it. But the Peggy one I feel like they cut away just enough times that it's like... You both cut away more than what I would expect a man to do in 1979 when they were shooting this is all I'm getting at. So the situation as I understand it and I'm going to use a direct quote here.
But in an interview with the Shout Factory Blu-Ray release from 2010, Corbin explained that when he hired Peterson, or Peters, sorry, he discussed the expectations of making a film that is part of a B-movie exploitation franchise and said that he needed the monsters to kill the men and rape the women. In post-production, he said that she had done an outstanding job when it came to filming the death scenes of all the male characters but shot all of the women attack scenes in a shadowy way filled with cutaways that didn't provide the level of TNA that he needed to sell the movie. So he hired the director of Death Stalker to come in and reshoot those scenes. Now I think for the most part, it was like...
It wasn't so much like it needs to be more aggressive but it was just like it needs to be lit in a way that the horny guys in the theater could see the boobs in this movie as opposed to not see the boobs. But the thing is I'm okay with showing boobs in horror movies. Like let's just get that out of the way. No, no, no.
Show me dong. Show me all the parts. I want to see it all. That's what horror is all about in my opinion.
It's just when it becomes nudity and violence that I am like, no thank you. So... Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. It's hard. I mean that puts like that puts Corbin. It doesn't put Corbin in the back position.
Corbin puts himself in the back position. Oh, say we've talked about this before that like Lloyd Kaufman might be the 80s version of Corbin but he is also way more of a feminist which is a weird thing to think about when you think about drama movies than Corbin ever was. But there's a reason why you have multiple reports of people who worked with Corbin coming away from it, having a bad time. Whereas like Lloyd Kaufman it feels like you never hear really actresses, actors, directors, writers ever feel like they were taking advantage of.
They might have felt like they were made enough. They may have felt like the food was so hard or whatever. But it seems like at his core Lloyd Kaufman genuinely cares about people's comfort level and safety while still being able to achieve what he wants. You know what I mean?
Yeah. I remember reading in his book. But like for him it's really important that like the first thing they film for any trauma film is all of the nude scenes. He just wants to get it out of the way and get it there because he needs it.
And that came from personal experience. He was like when I made my first movie there was supposed to be a wet t-shirt contest scene and he was shooting the movie in chronological order. And after he'd already shot about an hour of the movie and was getting to the wet t-shirt contest scene, all of the girls were like, no thank you we're not going to do that actually. And they like refused to film the scene and he had to cut it.
And he's like, well I can't like reshoot this whole movie just to get actresses that will do the scene. So from that point on his perspective was like, let's get the nudity first. It proves to me that they're serious about making the movie, that they're not going to like change the thing that allows me to sell this movie and make money back because there's an expectation. But also that he's like, that is as close to the set as humanly possible.
It is the actors, the sex coordinator and the cameraman and nobody else. No matter how bad it is. It's like a learned experience, right? And I just don't know.
I mean, like, Corman was always producer who occasionally would make a movie. Lloyd has basically made every film that trauma didn't acquire. You know what I mean? From a way more hands on perspective.
But yeah, I mean, the Peter's not a big fan of this movie said, sorry, I did know how to make this. I've never made a movie about women being sexually ravaged by a monster before this. Yeah. She's not opposed to shooting nudity, but only when it was integral to the story.
And she never felt like this stuff could be anything but mean and degrading. So she tried to do her best. And she's annoyed that Corman then went behind her back and re-shot the stuff. Yeah.
So I guess this is not a movie without its controversy. But it is a movie with a ventriloquist dummy getting a stripped scene and that is noteworthy. No doubt. Thanks.
The attacks follow on the beach. And this is when Jim and Dr. Susan Drake discover Peggy's body. The team deduces that the company that has been experimenting on growth hormones on salmon.
Somehow the salmon must have been released into the ocean and mutated the larger fish that were eating it. Excuse me, Matt, salmon. Just so you know from, yeah, salmon, W.R.K. Salman, SAO.
The salmon competition is big time. Yeah, I love that it's Kfish. KFSH is the name of the... I didn't believe the radio announcer kept saying Salman.
Salman. Yes. I'm going to say salmon with the silent hours. No salmon is normal.
That's correct. Yes, salmon is correct. The whole movie is wrong. It's hilarious.
I want to make sure you have your trauma response of being from Delcoated. Make sure that you're saying that you're saying correctly. I mean, have you heard him say demon over the last decade? Yeah, any time we talk about werewolves I just can't.
Anyway, getting off of my accent. Here's me giving my own personal opinion in the middle of my little summary. But the humanoid attacked the village, the village's annual festival, and then I wrote, this attack scene is genuinely among my favorite moments in any horror movie. It checks so many boxes for me.
We'll dive into this a little bit deeper in a second. I will sum up at the end. Jim fills the bay with gasoline, which he ignites that keeps the creatures from being able to retreat back to the water and allows them to kill off these creatures. However, at the end of the film, it is revealed that Peggy has given birth to a humanoid offspring.
Something that Daniel Bannon took a lot of issues with and said that they were stealing the concept of a chestburster in that scene, which I think is a little bit of a trash stand. It came out of the tummy. It came out of the chest versus the amount of the chest. And from the humanoid from the deep came out of the tummy.
Also, no, Ben, you didn't invent the concept of a baby ripping its way through a stomach. That is kind of... Have you ever heard of a C-section? Yeah, that's just natural horror in general because child birth is terrifying in so many ways.
Let's talk about this scene up here though, because I retrospectively... That's why I wanted us to talk about this movie. This scene is phenomenal. I didn't realize, so I did a little bit of research.
I watched... Matt, I used to be watching the screen factory release. No, I watched the... I have the old school cormen DVD still that I probably bought as one of the first like 20 CDs I ever owned.
So you are missing... If I read this correctly, you are missing a key scene or something that was removed before the... My version was 78 minutes long. There's not a lot that's taken out, but there was in the Japanese release and then later on added to the Blu-ray release, there is a complete head rip happening from...
Well... Yeah, dude. Okay. So you need to see this head rip.
Matt Scott, how did you watch this? I just watched on 2D, so I'm assuming that I watched Matt Scott the same copy as Matt, because I don't know anything about head rip. I've watched this movie like seven times. There is a full on head rip.
The humanoid dangles the head. We see a full severed head. I have so I don't have the Blu-ray, but I had bought this at a horror convention due 2008 and it was a rip of the Japanese copy of it. So it's called Monster, I think.
Monster is... Oh, I actually have humanoids from the Deep Up. The... Yeah, Monster is the European and Japanese name.
Yeah, yeah. So it's a DVD rip of Monster, which there's not... The only difference that I distinguished was that there is this head rip completely gnarly, but that's the only thing that changes from this pure annihilation, which is an incredible scene. It's pure annihilation.
Yeah, Matt, that's a sure design right there. Pure annihilation. I love that. I do...
There's one thing that I wish happened, and it's related to K-fish. At the beginning of the carnival, K-fish is on the mic, and they're saying that if you can catch the roller skater, you'll get a K-fish visor. Yes. There's a radio babe on roller skates, and if you can catch her...
She's not holding visors, by the way. No, she ain't got no visors. You've got to go back to the table for that, but if you catch her, apparently. I just wish.
I wish that there was a humanoid wearing a K-fish visor. That would have been so fucking funny. I was almost sure it was going to happen. I was like, was this your first watch?
This wasn't your first watch. No, I've watched this many times, but I shouldn't say many times. I watched this two or three times when I had first bought it. You know, because it's like an early horror, but then I was also like an early bootleg thing that I owned, so I thought it was special.
This is the reason I showed so many people's say-lo for just that. It's just so crazy to think of you. The most mild manner of the three of us would be like gleefully showing solo. I earned 20 days of solo to randos.
Hey, come over to my apartment. Let's watch solo. It was sort of a... It was a vibe for sure.
It was something that I did. It was like that. It was like Gumbo and kids. I was sort of like a person who showed people fucked up things.
Right? Okay. Man, this is late middle school, early high school. Right?
What you're talking about like high school and a high school in a college? Like art school? No. Like film school?
No, but this is also, you know, when I say show people, it's not like I had a huge group of friends. Let's remember my Satanist upbringing. Okay. I didn't have a great, a whole group of people to show them.
That was crazy for you. I didn't know the crazy two years, dog. But this was in that mix of horror movies that were sort of like, you're not going to see this anywhere else. I didn't know the difference for the understanding, but this was in that pile.
Sure. I've watched it a handful of times early on. I probably haven't seen it in 15 years, you know, 10, 15 years. Yeah.
So it was a fun re-watch for that reason. I was hoping I was like, I could have convinced, I almost convinced myself that there was going to be a humanoid wearing this visor. Really? Well, because it wouldn't be any more ridiculous than like, there are some, a great scene in this movie is during this peer attacks scene where there's just a corpse that's still sitting in the merry-go-round that it just keeps cutting you over and over again.
Yes. Right. As he's like, there's, it's so good. The woman being attacked in her truck is like a beautifully shot scare scene.
Like it's a, it's a good ass movie. Highly recommend it, man. Like it, well, I guess not highly recommended. There are some questionable things in this.
Like the things that work are worth watching. You know they work. Watch a carnage count video of it really because you don't, I do think that you want to see the violence in mayhem that is this movie. And look, all of the monsters in Roger Corbin movies are kind of low budget schlock, but these things with their giant brains, they're like the jaw, like these are some of the coolest looking monsters that have ever appeared.
We didn't rank them. I don't remember when we did, we did a corpsman monster ranking for Patreon. I think that's right. I feel like it's a pretty high.
I can't remember what movie was. It was the, it was the corpsman alien movie. Forbidden Planet. Yeah.
Hit up our Patreon, patreon.com backslash hmn podcast and you'll get to hear us do that ranking. It was a lot of fun. But yeah, I mean, that's humanoids from the deep. Happy 45 years.
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Yeah, it feels very. Yeah, yeah. Kai, what about you? I have a couple.
My first thought and it's not fun and it's not great and it's really icky, but breeders is truly sort of like what you can match this with. And if you can just deal with the subject matter of it all, breeders is the one. And it's shorter. It's like less than 80 minutes so you can get through it pretty quick, but it does match this quite well.
Yeah. Nice job. Now, I was going to make the Shape of Water joke, but I have a better one for you because it's not a joke. It's bad.
It's fucking terrible, but I watched it immediately following this. I had enough time to watch 1966 is The Sting of Death. Have you ever heard of this movie? No.
This was a new one for me. It was literally the suggested movie, The Next Movie on Tooby after watching Human Rights from the Deep. And it is a Frankie, Frankie, I don't know, Sting of Death. Who is it?
Who is the singer in it? Frankie Bali. Frankie Bali, yes. It is very fucking stupid.
But the best part about it is that it's this guy who, it's such a bad movie. But the conceit is this guy who has figured out a way to make himself into a human, he can like transform and detransform back from this like humanoid Portuguese man of war jellyfish creature. What? And if you just go to the last five minutes of it on Tooby, it's all you really need to see because the costume is hilarious.
Oh, I saw something about this and I almost was going to clock it as an episode. You're saying it's not worth it for just the last minute? I don't know, maybe. I feel like next summer, yeah, sure.
Why the fuck not, right? But it's just absurd. It's not long. It's 80 minutes.
You know, like it's not even an hour and a half. The thing I like the most about it is that Neil Sadeka, he sang a song for it called Do the Jellyfish. It was like, it was like a, and this was rated X. You got an X rating, an X certificate in 66 or 67.
I'm sorry. And they just did it because they needed a B picture for drive ins. And I guess in the late 60s, X certificates weren't like horrifyingly bad movies. It was just trying to be 16 years or older to watch.
So the story, a very, very quick Matt Kelly film history breakdown of the X rating. When they originally made the ratings board, it was G, P, G, R, and X. Those were the types of ratings you could get. But basically happened was the MPAA, you have to pay to get your rating, Kyle.
I'm pretty sure that's correct. You have to pay a copyright fee to the MPAA to display the rating on your movie, essentially. It's like when you have to be certified organic. Yeah.
Does that mean that if you're if it's unrated, they just didn't pay? Well, so here's the thing. The MPAA was so confident that no one would ever want to release an X rated movie that they didn't bother to copyright that particular rating. They only copy wrote the G, the PG, and the R.
What happened was the porn industry was like, we don't have to pay the MPAA for these ratings. So they just started slapping the X rating on everything. And they basically then X became so synonymous with porn that they kind of stopped giving movies X ratings because like Midnight Cowboy has an X rating. It's not like a particularly sexy movie by any stretch of the imagination, but because it was the 70s and it was about drugs and sex and all of that.
They were like, well, no children, not even a 17 year old should be admitted to this. This is like a 21-up-type deal. No, no, no, no, no. X ratings weren't that way in the 70s, but in the 60s, I was reading about staying of death.
And at 70s, the X rating just meant that you had to be 16 years or up. That makes sense. That's what I find so crazy. And also, Sting of Death is very fucking tame.
Yeah, oh, I'm most of the non-corn X rated movies from the brief time that that existed are more tame than most than what you've come to expect. But yeah, that's my very quick history of the MPAA. The other double feature I had written down was Alligator 2, the mutation because that also ends with a giant peer attack during a fair. Yeah, and there's a mutation.
Honestly, I probably should have went with that over Charles too. Well, you know, we all make mistakes. But you know, it's a real big mistake. Not supporting your boys by going to patreon.com backslash hmnpodcast or visiting hmnpodcast.dashery.com or our website hmnpodcast.com.
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I read a book, a very short book by Rex Ogle called Embuela Don't Forget Me. This is a middle grade book, which I don't often read middle grade books, but Rex was on YOK when we first launched it and he just seemed like a really cool dude and he's a pretty prolific middle grade writer, more than a young adult writer. This book is part of a trilogy of memoirs that he wrote about his life. The books were free lunch and well, don't forget me.
And I forget what the third and final one is. But basically, a very quick story of Rex is that his father abandoned him. His mother was extremely abusive and constantly was dating other abusive men. And when he came out to his parents, they kicked him out of the house.
It's like his beginning. That's his life story of high school. And well, don't forget me is his love letter to his grandmother, who was the one place that provided him with safety and security. And the book was written after his grandmother was diagnosed with dementia as a like here are all of the stories of how great you were grandma, please don't forget me.
It's a heartbreakingly beautiful read. It's all poetry. Every chapter is maybe two pages long and it's all poems that he wrote about it. It is probably at the end of the year when I'm ranking my favorite books that I read this year.
I don't see a world where this isn't in my top three. This really affected me. It is a one that you can sit down and knock it out so quickly because it's like 170 pages all short stands up poems. But it is the way it's structured, the way it's written.
It is so beautiful. It tends to even dabble into funny once in a while. But it is just it is truly a work of art. When you talk about how literature can be a work of art, this is going to be like one of those things that I bring up as like just an unbelievable achievement in writing.
So if that sounds like something you would really like, give it a shot. Like I said, it's not a fun read sometimes, but it is a very well crafted book that I highly recommend. What was it called again? Well, don't forget me.
How about one of you cheer us up after that said pitch? It was great. Well, how about you do it next? And then I'll go.
It's not sad. It's just an oddity that I came across. And it's actually based in Kormen. So this is a perfect I've had some connective tissue on my what did I watch here.
I watch a movie called Velocity. Now, if you look at Velocity from 1999, you will find that it is a flashback movie. Now, for the horror audience, a flashback movie is so an idea. Like too, you know, where most of the movie is done is showing the first movie.
A flashback movie is not after the right term. Anyway, it'll make sense to you because we are seeing most of the time. So the previous film in a new setting in a new box, a shiny new box, right? So Silent Night, the Night 2 only has so much new footage attached to the previous thing.
Velocity is from 1999, but Velocity is a re-edited version of Roger Kormen produced The Wild Ride, which is an early Jack Nicholson, like, sort of automobile teen rebellion movie that I had never seen. I bought Velocity kind of thinking that it was a older Jack Nicholson picture. I come to find out that it is just a re-cut of 1960s The Wild Ride with 25 minutes of sort of bookends of a new arrogant street race car driver, road course race car driver in California who, Jason Sudeikis also makes like one of his first appearances in film in this movie. He has dyed hair and he's a little punk-ass crew chief for this driver who is arrogant, but his mechanic is played by Jack Nicholson's character from Roger Kormen's picture.
It's played by a Jack Nicholson impersonator. So we have this Jack Nicholson impersonator, playing Jack Nicholson's character from 1960s The Wild Ride, and then we have about almost an hour of Kormen's, Kormen produced The Wild Ride in the middle of this bookended piece with new footage that also includes Jason Sudeikis and a Jack Nicholson impersonator. It's bad, it's bad, it's not good by any stretch of the imagination. I don't even think The Wild Ride is probably that good of a movie.
And by bookending this movie with new footage that sort of tries to tell a story about how back in the day this crew chief used to be a crazy race car driver and with all the things that he learned back in his day he can apply it to this arrogant new driver and maybe there's a morality tale involved. It's fucking insane. But I have, I bought the DVD at that closing app and I finally sat down and watched it. And by sat down I stood up at my standing desk, did work and had it on in the background and also didn't get my work done because I was so flabbergasted that it's like existed.
But it's just an oddity. I don't know if you can find it. I don't know if you can find Jason Sudeikis, his little like tidbits of information. Maybe I'll put something together.
Maybe I won't. Velocity exists and it's not a recommendation but that is what I watched. Dear Lord. Alright well Scott, lots weighing on your shoulders.
Well there's no way for me to really make it happen. But what I will say is I read Cold Front by Barry Hammond which is a it was until this year a kind of a piece of lost media. It is a very was a very obscure horror book from the from Canada from the early 80s I believe it was published in 82. Barry Hammond's only novel.
And Fathom Press worked for years to get the rights to it to you know to transcribe it, to clean it up, make sure it's good to go. And then they did a mass market paperback version of it or I mean they did it they did a reprint of it and I was one of the three of us. Yeah cover art for this is crazy. Well the original cover art was awesome.
The new cover art is fine. The funny thing is that the cover art for the original I believe it was used by multiple books because it wasn't a thing. And that's what's so funny about these retro horror paperbacks is that there are multiple books that have the same covers or like four of our covers that were reused because it was like there was no internet back then and these were small publishing and they didn't have any sort of like exclusivity to the covers to the cover art. And so if they probably like if the artist didn't get paid enough they were probably like oh I guess I'm just gonna you know offer it to somebody else to recoup my costs.
But anyway the story is very bleak. It's these these three drunk oil where oil men like oil patch workers who murder their boss because they're drunk and they want his money and then they go on the lamp and they get lost in the Northwest territory and they find a cabin with a woman in it and various dismemberments ensue. It is a nasty short book. I didn't love it but it also is oddly less terrible than that.
Less gross and gory than I was expecting. I was expecting some like it's reputation kind of preceded a little bit too well. It was lost because it was just fine. But I did enjoy it.
It wasn't written terribly. I mean it was relatively well written story. I mean like I have a pretty low bar to air entry when it comes to these retro horror paperbacks because so many of them were really about just like writing shocking stuff and a lot of them were very essay forward and I discuss that when I discuss them sometimes on here but a lot of the ones I read and don't discuss are due to the fact that they are just not well written and not compelling. This was compelling enough for 150 pages and it was an experience to read it.
I recommend people who want to get their hands on some previously lost media to check out the press. They are cool. I like that they are doing this. I think they have only done like half a dozen publications right now.
I know they did The Light at the End which is a super famous retro horror paperback that was out of print and they did the brain eaters. Oh they did bad Ronald? Yes. They did reprint that.
I think they have only done half a dozen so far. Hopefully getting cold front. Oh they did Jon Russo's Return of the Living Dead. Very fun.
Yeah and so funny about that Jon Russo's Return of the Living Dead is that I was at a local comic con slash horror con two maybe three years ago and I believe Jon Russo was there or it was somebody who it was some old guy who had all of Jon Russo's books and he had like six signed copies of the original printing of Return of the Living Dead and they were going for 20 bucks a piece and I was like that would be kind of cool to have but I also don't really care enough to buy it and so I didn't and I think about that a little bit. Alright. Alright well we'll be back next week with even more. Alright maybe night so stay tuned, subscribe, like, share, all of Echo Jazz and we will bring you the hahahas every Thursday night here on the horror movie Nightbot Gaze.
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