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EPISODE · Aug 18, 2025 · 59 MIN

Humans Make the Best Leaders: Jennifer Nash on PYP 627

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Are empathy and humanity compatible with great leadership, or do they just get in the way? That's the topic of today's conversation with executive coach Jennifer Nash about her book, "Be Human, Lead Human: How to Connect People and Performance." Jennifer's got great war stories (or more accurately, Peace Stories). Like how Alan Mulally turned things around at Ford by NOT being the smartest guy in the room. Looking for a mnifty mnemonic to guide you to become a better, more human-centric leader? The HUMANS framework has you covered. Don't miss this inspiring conversation—you'll definitely walk away with some fresh insights on creating happier, more effective workplaces.01:00 Ballroom Dancing and Leadership02:02 The Story Behind 'Be Human, Lead Human'03:33 Alan Mulally's Transformative Leadership at Ford09:36 The Importance of Human-Centric Leadership21:56 Jennifer's Journey: From Ford to Deloitte23:40 Implementing Human-Centric Strategies in Organizations29:55 The Motivation Behind Transformation30:15 The Power of Semantics in Change30:44 Understanding Human Behavior and Motivation31:22 Organizational Change Strategies32:55 Ford's Inclusive Leadership Approach35:03 Introducing the HUMAN Framework35:51 Breaking Down the HUMAN Framework38:19 The Importance of Relationships in Leadership40:03 Self-Assessment and Feedback in Leadership43:04 Addressing Neurodivergence in Leadership48:18 Coaching Through Self-Awareness and Emotional Reactions52:53 The Future of Leadership with AI

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