Hush (2016)

Flannog, Flannog, Flannog, Flannog. Welcome to the Flannosphere Little Cucks. This is, what's up all you betas? I am Dan, I am smoking a big fat cigar.

I am wearing sunglasses with sort of like an ombre tint. Actually, I mean those sunglasses are actually kind of cool. You think so? Maybe not the ombre tint, but I'm very into like the yellow, like the amber sort of tinted sunglasses.

Oh, well like 70s porno man, that kind of thing? That I love. Yeah, I'm like, of course. My style recently is shifting into sort of 70s porno guy.

Here's the thing. I think, is it fair to say we're both like pretty hairy people? Oh, 100%. Yeah.

So it's like any sort of accoutrement that there's like a visual language where it makes sense? Yes. Of course I'm going to exploit it. Yeah, of course.

Absolutely. The peak of male fashion was the 70s, I feel like. Everyone's just wearing browns and yellows. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's all like tight fitting, but also like kind of big and weird spots. It's like the tightest jeans you've ever seen and then a billowy shirt unbuttoned to your belly button. Yeah, tucked in, but unbuttoned completely. Yes.

The more we talk about this, the more I'm like, oh, maybe not. I'm Rob also. What are you smoking a cigar? I'm sipping on a 18 year old single malt scotch.

That's amazing. And I also want to add I have a babe on each arm. Yeah, well, I obviously have a babe on each arm and on each leg. And they're trying to take you down.

That's the girl. They're prisoners in your home and they've all worked together. Tonight's the night. Tonight's the night.

They take me down. You're a bad man. Yeah, obviously. And while they're doing that, I'm also trading cryptocurrency.

Hell yeah. It's going to bounce back. I can feel it. You see that Bitcoin?

It's up to $65,000 a coin. What a joke. Oh my god. It's all made up.

And yet as time goes on, I'm like, maybe I should just be doing that. Maybe I should just be doing whatever it takes. Right? Like, oh man, should I just be up?

I had guys? Should I be at? Yeah. Should I enter my villain era?

Oh, oh, and he went off just then. You all saw it. You all heard it. That's it.

That's the spot. Rob, Dan. Far be it for me to ever tell you what to do. But I'm going to do it right now.

Uh oh. Hush the fuck up. Oh shit. What the hush?

I was thinking about doing this whole episode in sign language, but I decided against him. For an audio only format, that would have been really tough. I mean, tough for the listeners. Yeah.

Easy for you. Right. Dextrous and nimble hands. Yes.

Famously. I guess we could do what we could also do like a Morse code thing. Oh, I guess so. Yeah.

Beep beep beep beep. Or just like a dry race board, something like that. Oh, just honestly, I would listen to a podcast that was two hours of dry race board, like squeaking and tapping. Or like a marker squeaking and tapping on a dashboard.

I'm sure you could look up an ASMR video on YouTube. That is just that. I bet you I could. There's this Instagram account I follow.

Tell me how I'll plug it if you want. It's this guy. And he takes a circular dry race board, puts it on a potter's wheel, and then just like takes a marker and just big fat, fucking dry race markers. That's a guy.

Oh, man. It's like the with the these markers, Rob. It's like a two-inch Coke can. It's incredible.

I've never seen anything like it. I know. Where you get your hands on a marker like that? How much is that?

Is that like a $50 marker? It must be. It must be. But you got to think of all the money he's making on.

Oh, yeah. Just being a marker guy. By doing little spiral patterns on his. Right.

You know, is there any greater sign that there's no point to like anything that you know, I'm glad for this guy. You know, obviously do whatever you got to do in these trying times. But the fact that that guy is definitely making six figures just by like using a spiral dry race board and a big fat marker. Like money does not matter at all.

Like not. You know what's interesting though, is like I think the drawings and stuff are like a to him. It's like a promotional tool for his music. Oh, shit.

All right. I'll give it up. All right. The accounts is limba L.I.M.B.A.

Trip T.R.I.P. Limba Trip. Limba Trip. Not to be confused with.

Yeah. Go ahead. With Linda Trip. Yeah.

Different. This guy is a different lady from Linda Trip. All right. Well, I'll have to.

What was was Linda Trip? What did she do? She snitched on Lewinsky or something? No.

That's not Linda Trip, right? Linda Trip was a. Is she a more recent person? No, no.

She was involved in that. Let's say who played a prominent role in the Clinton Lewinsky business trips action. In Eligo. I mean, she was involved in it somehow.

But there was another woman. Who the fuck was that? Oh, also Linda Trip from Jersey City, New Jersey, represent. Let's go.

She should have a rest up named after her 100%. No, who was? Oh, they got to Pan Express at the Linda Trip. Was Linda.

Sorry. I know you're trying to ask who was that? No, no. Go on.

Go on. Is Linda Trip was Linda Trip played by John Goodman on SNL? Oh, yeah. Yeah, right?

Yeah. That's Linda Trip. OK. I keep thinking of.

I mean, this is the woman that was played by Will Ferrell on SNL. Oh, Janet Reno. Janet Reno. Oh, man.

There's OK, so is it the times of change? Exercise video? No, it's not. There's an episode where she boxes Rudy Giuliani who's playing himself.

Yeah. And he he hits him and he goes, oh, you fight dirty. And she goes, then how come my conscience is so clean? Or clean, not good.

Yeah, that's that's very funny, though. Yeah. Wow. I forgot all about Will Ferrell as Janet Reno.

Yeah. What a time, huh? That is fun. Both of our references are like, who was that man that played that woman from that scandal on SNL?

What a time and by what a time, I mean, what a worst time. Oh, god. We've come a long way. Yeah, I mean, I guess SNL was I don't know.

I don't know. Don't do that. SNL was better than even worse. No, no, no, no.

I'm not doing that. It's just I don't want to litigate what time was worse now or than. Oh, sure. Oh, sure.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, whatever, who gives a shit? Yeah, honestly, at this point, it is who gives a shit. Now is bad and only getting worse. Yes.

Anyway, guys, I need everybody to just quiet down. All right. This week, we're going to give you the podcast equivalent of meningitis because this episode is going to be so good, you'll be rendered speechless and you'll never want to hear anything else. Perfect.

Thank you. It's hush. It's hush time. It's hush, baby.

Shush up. Shut the fuck up. We are this a big episode, big, big old episode. You know why?

Well, why? I mean, as Katie Seagulls here, like for real, this Marisol bullshit. Yeah. We got ever Marisol.

I do kind of remember Marisol. Scary. So scary. So OK.

Yes, Katie Seagull is in this. And apparently, this is where their love truly bloomed. I didn't know that. Well, that's what I hear.

Aw. Tell me more about that. Well, when I'm like Flanagan and Katie Seagull, love each other very much. When a man meets a woman who looks like all the women he cast in his other movies.

Yep. And he's got a way of the chief fetish. Yeah, because I have the chance to get her pregnant for real. No more pretend.

Actually, what's her name from absentia? Courtney Bell, she really was pregnant in that thing. Yes, she was extremely pregnant in that thing. Yeah.

And that's what the casting call said. Yeah, yeah. I need somebody extremely pregnant. Must be exquisitely pregnant.

Must have a big old round belly for me to photograph, film, get the wide lens. Also in this here movie, Samantha, sloy-in, sloy-in, sloy-in, looking like. Which of course we know from Midnight Mass. She's also in Fall House of Usher, Midnight Club.

She becomes a Flanagan regular along with Michael Trucco. Michael Trucco. Yeah, man. What kind of nice Italian boy, eh?

Yeah. Where's he from? California. Whoa.

Wait, Northern or Southern? Central. It looks like Southern. San Mateo.

I'm going to assume that's Southern. I think that is Northern. I think that's Silicon Valley. Is it really?

I think so. So whoa. I'm disrupting an industry. I'm disrupting a Flanagan film.

I can't figure out how to make this company profitable. Oh no. Oh, you know what? OK.

Now this makes more fucking sense. This guy was in the fucking Battle Star Galactica. OK. OK.

He was in, looks like, 36 episodes. That's what I knew I recognized this guy from somewhere. But I just assumed it was from other Flanagan things. I watched that show.

And in the last episode, we talked about Oculus with Katie Sackoff in it, also from Battle Star. Yes. So this is all making sense. This guy, this Flanagan guy, he wishes he would have been on B.S.

G. Yeah. He wishes he was a big B.S. G fan.

Yeah. Very embarrassing. So this is Truco. Truco was on B.S.

G. Yeah. Would you say Truco or Trucco? I don't know.

I have no idea. I might just try to avoid it for the rest of the episode. I'm going to call him John, because that's his character's name. I'm going to call him that too.

I hope I don't accidentally say John, because I live in Philadelphia. Oh, geez. Uh-oh. Then this fucking John walks up.

It's not even right. That's not the right way to do this word. No. It's not like a pejorative.

Oh. And you wouldn't really use it to talk about person. It's kind of like anything but what you did. So I'm not trying to be difficult, but no, no.

So I had out of infinite options. I picked the only wrong one is what you're saying. I'm reminded of the, I think it's a family guy joke. Where yeah, Adam West, Adam West, right?

Someone's pointing at gun at him. He says, go ahead and shoot me, but you should know. There's a tiny bullet sized vest, it will purvest somewhere on my body. And if you hit it, you'll be the laughing stock of me.

And you hit the, you hit the little purvest that is funny. Yeah. So, OK, who else is in this? John Gallagher Jr.

And Emma Graves, right? So John Gallagher Jr. Um, his father is John Gallagher senior. Yeah, that's right.

OK. Let me just write. Hold on. Let me just write that down.

I'm a senior. Spelled the traditional spelling. Yes. Yes.

OK. You may know him from such a sort in efforts as the West Wing and the newsroom. I mean, all he's doing in this movie is walking and talking. So that's true.

That is perfect. I so it's always it's it just sticks out, right? Not not, you know, the walking and talking, but how Flanagan always like he works with the same people over and over again, right? And then like in this movie, he's working with John Gallagher Jr.

Right. And then never again, which I'm like, what happened? What happened between the two of you? Is it just scheduling conflicts or was there a beef, you know?

Yeah. I mean, maybe he just like that's one of those things where like I, you know, if you're a filmmaker that works with a lot of the same people, when you don't work with somebody again, it's like, yeah, it says something. And I'm not sure. I could just be reading into it, of course, but no, I mean, there's something to it.

Right. He's the lead of the movie is the co lead of the movie. Right. So it's like he has top billing over Flanagan's own wife.

Mm. He's like, baby, don't worry. I'll give you top billing at home. I'm going to get you so pregnant.

Please. Yeah. No, it's interesting too, because it's like you got to figure, you know, not that this was like a huge movie, but yeah, he had his pick, certainly, of like other actors of this tier of famous success. Yeah.

And I don't think he does a bad job. I think he's a little, you know, wooden board kind of. He's not that interesting. Yeah.

So like I feel like a script issue. Yes. I, so I think an interesting thing, but that I'm discovering here by going back and watching the early works, right? In chronological order here.

So like the mini series is I really enjoy, right? I think they're very good and well made. And you know, like we talked about Midnight Mass and everybody's criticism about that was like so talky. Everybody's monologuing all over the place, right?

But I think it works in that show. And the monologues, I feel like are poignant and they have like a lot of weight behind them and they work. Yeah. It is interesting to see these early works where like the writing is I'm going to say not quite there yet.

Yeah. I mean, this is also like such a yeah, right? We talked about he's like Flanagan. Flanagan.

I mean, when he's like in Midnight Mass mode, which by the way, Midnight Mass, it's in this movie. It's character in the film. It is a bit of a character that he's I mean, literally, right? He's filming a novel.

Yes. And this is very cinematic. And I just don't think he's a very cinematic kind of guy. Like Dr.

Sleep is kind of a fluke in that way where it's like, not that that's super cinematic, but it needs to be to an extent to pull off its premise. Yes. I think he's much more of like a character guy. Yeah.

And that he's he's yeah, he's one. I think he's one cinematic move is to turn the camera sideways and then fix it. All right, we're going to do the sideways thing again. All right.

All right, Ellen and Rainmore. Well, yeah. So I did you like this movie, Dan? You know, Oculus, I'm still a little I'm still feeling kind of sour about that.

Yeah. I liked it more than that most definitely me too. I like this a lot more than Oculus. I'd say maybe it's probably because the writing was well, the main character.

Our lead is silent. She's deaf and mute. So, you know, she's not going to be giving any monologues directly to the camera and not. It's not going to be some overwritten, talky kind of thing, like Karen Gilligan Gilligan Gillens.

What is this? John Gallagher, juniors. Hey, hey, everyone. This motherfucker just a Gilligan.

I'm like a fucking idiot. My real chucklehead. Yeah, let me guess. Sorry, not Gilligan.

Sorry, Karen Skipper. All right. All right. Sorry.

I mean, Marianne Gillens. What? Oh, geez. Oh, geez.

I've been watching a lot of TV land. Let's talk about that. Hey, and congrats to us. Turn the ticker over.

This is two episodes in a row talking about TV land, possibly three. I think it is three. It might be three. Yeah.

So I think that we're going to go on a sick Andy Griffith riff. I just want to, I mean, talk about a rest of the filming last time, but the Andy Griffith, when they're going to court and they're going to hire Andy Griffith and for 20,000, he'll lean over and whisper something in your ear. But then Ron Howard is like, I just want to make it clear that in no way were we trying to make fun of Andy Griffith. Great show.

Great show. Can't stress enough. Just stick with it. It's about to get good.

Season four is where it really picks up. Yes. They find their voice. Yeah.

Anyway, I think I think this movie really benefits from less, less dialogue, a lot less dialogue, you know. Yeah, it's an interesting. And duality, right? Where we're like, we like the talky, we like the monologuing, but at the same time, I like that nobody's talking here, really.

Yeah. I mean, the premise lends itself to just being quite it's a havacian kind of thing. It's a serial killer stalking a person, not all of the mythology behind this mirror. Yes.

Jesus Christ. But also, yeah. Anyway, yeah, in this sort of like first act of his career, he really loves like a gimmick. Yes.

Which does feel very like indebted to Stephen King, right? Like, wow, yeah. Was haunted. Yeah.

What if a definitely was haunted by a guy? Yep. All right. It doesn't quite track, but, you know, yeah, there's like a there's a hook.

There's like a strong jumping off point. This, I mean, yeah, this is, you know, if this wasn't a, you know, if that wasn't the hook of this movie, if Katie Seagull's character wasn't deaf and mute, it would just be another like slasher kind of. Sure. Like it's not like.

I do. I do also. Yeah. He's he is sort of like, it does feel a little bit like there's like a checklist of severted expectations.

He's kind of running down. Sure. Um, which like to your point, right? Like the writing is not super strong, even in the, even in those sorts of ways.

Right. Um, but it is fun. It's like a, it's a great idea. I would honestly, no offense.

I'd love to see somebody else make this movie. Sure. Right. It is a great premise.

There are some like elements of it that I think are pretty good. Yeah. Like when he has her dead friend tap on the window. That's funny.

Yeah. You know what? I don't know. I, so I, I do like this movie.

I don't think it's great. Um, I think I had higher hopes for it. Like just based on the premise. And I think it's just an image, a judge style.

Yeah. Booted judge style. Gone. Um, no, just that like, um, I don't know.

I, I, maybe I was just expecting something a little bit different, but like the character of the man, right? Played by John Gallagher Jr. Um, so he's not like menacing, you know? Yeah.

He's not like, and I understand like this situation is scary. Like the guy is, you know, a murderer and he's already killed one person and he's trying to get in, you know, torture Katie Siegel and mentally and fuck with her until he breaks in and eventually kills her. But like the, I don't know, all of these sort of like, you know, he's a little too witty or like too, not even witty. Maybe that's not the right word.

Um, I don't know what that, I don't know. I, yes, I think they want him, they being Mike Flanagan and Katie Siegel. Yeah. I'm sure she's complicit in all of this.

It's a package deal. Yeah, for sure. Um, I, yeah, I think they want him to be. She is credited as one of the writers.

Oh, is she? Yeah. Right. Cause do you know how they wrote it?

Since there's like no dialogue in the movie. Um, I have no idea how they basically acted out everything in their house. They were like, Oh, wouldn't it be cool if like I came from over here? Now, Dan, are you joking or no, I'm not.

All right. I'm not. Um, and in fact, there were issues when they went into production because they couldn't find a house that was laid out close enough to their own boy, which is so that's like apparently rewrite big chunks of the script, which is incredibly short sighted. Yeah.

Shockingly, that's like, that's like, that's the kind of thing I really am like, shit, I can make a movie. Right. When you hear about like people's processes of like making things and you're like, is that it? Like I've been overthinking this completely.

All I got to do is know what the set looks like in advance. Yeah. Great. Great.

And then, and then you run into our bedroom. Now we have to find another house that has our bedroom. Oh my God. It's yeah.

It is so funny to make it so specific to your house that you can't possibly shoot it anywhere else. This is the house, right? No. No, no, this is a different one in Alabama.

Anyway, how do we get on this? Oh, writing the man, the character of man, the chatty, chatty Cathy here. He's a bit of a chatty Cathy. And that feels like a real insecurity on Flanagan's part, Flanagan, because he didn't feel comfortable making this a fully silent movie.

Like obviously that was a consideration. Like that sort of baked into the premise is like, what if a movie were signed? Right. What would that be like?

Right. But I mean, straight up, he has said like he was worried that like the audience would lose focus or something to that effect, right? Or, and to me, that is just like, I mean, maybe it's good. He's understanding his limitations, because he's probably for being completely honest, maybe not the guy for this movie.

Yeah. But like, you can make this with no dialogue or basically no dialogue. Yeah. I there in a in Blood Simple, right, the first Going Brothers movie, there's like a half hour or so where there is just like no dialogue.

It's just things, you know, actions happening on the screen. And it's like, it's fucking compelling, you know, like, yeah, you could with, with, you know, music and sound effects. That's the other thing too. It's like the first five minutes of this, I was like, oh, man, is this just going to be like sound design the movie, you know, deal me in.

That sounds great. I would be totally fine with that. Go ahead, make it sound design the movie. But then like, I don't know again, the killer.

So chatty. So chatty. And he actually, I think suffers from Brady Hartsfeld syndrome, where it's like they want him to be this like in cell kind of recluse weirdo, but also have him be like incredibly clever and for adepts in like social situations. Right.

I mean, like in maybe in social in when Mike, or is that his name? Yeah, John John John when John shows up, you know, he, he sort of like, you know, was quick on his feet to an extent, to an extent, exactly. Funny that you brought up Brady Hartsfield too, because there is a quick shot of Mr. Mercedes on her bookshelf.

Is that what book it was? I saw his name. He being Steven. Yeah, we know who he is capital H.

He he of microwave fish fame. I tell people about that and they're like, horrified. It's disgusting. Did I show you that the New York Times cooking vertical was like, I think it was New York Times.

I forgive me if I'm wrong. I would hate to slander such an integral publication. Yes, please. Yeah.

And he recently made any gigantic, you know, anyway, yeah, go on Jesus. Yeah. Read that story. No, thank you.

It's very. And anyway, I'm pretty sure they had a microwave fish recipe. Gross. Yeah.

Gross, gross. Yeah. And into the list of literal war crimes they've enabled. Yeah.

So yeah, the I think that the killer is a little too chatty. I mean, that's right. Isn't that like part of the reason that like serial killer movies, like Michael Myers or Jason Borges, like that's why they like it's popular or whatever? It's like this unstoppable sort of thing, even like something like the strangers, right?

Those movies, which I think the trailer for the new strangers just came out. But like that's part of it. Is that like it's this sort of anonymous, you know, killer with, you know, this faceless person, which is what when when he shows up with a mask, right? And then there's a part where she's like, I didn't see your face, like you can leave and I won't say anything.

All that shit. And then he takes his mask off. I did laugh out loud because his face is so nondescript. It's just a face.

One hundred percent. And what sucks is like, I thought that was such a, I mean, that's item number, like one on the list of expectations subverted, right? You have like a creepy distinctive mask and then just have him take it off, right? Cause that's not right.

I think that's like a cool little turn, but yeah, no, he's he is simply just some guy. Right. That's why they had to give him the neck tattoo to give like any sort of description. Right.

Yeah. And that's that's the other thing is like he's kind of like a custom character villain where it's like neck tattoo. Um, his weapon of choice is a crossbow. Yep.

Which I really struggle with. I'm sorry. Me too. I bump up against that hard.

That is silly, Billy stuff. Like when I don't know. So I feel like the first, I don't know, five, ten minutes of this. I'm like, all right.

I like what we're setting up here. Yeah. And then as soon as you see Sarah, Samantha Sloane's character, take an arrow through the chest or whatever. Yes.

Oh no, we're doing too much, aren't we? Yeah. We're going to be doing too much. Yeah.

I like honestly, if he I kind of, all right. What if it was a bow and arrow instead, like a, like a hunter's like compound? Is it compound or compound bow? That sounds right.

I think that's something that's what it's called. But like what if that was his sort of thing? Was that he's like, I'm hunting you, right? Like that's his MO, not like the crossbow thing.

Crossbows in general. I feel like it's just the most cumbersome weapon. And that's that is tough in this movie, right? Because there's a whole sequence where Kate Seagull's character, Mattie, can't load the crossbow, right?

Like she's struggling to load it. And he's the man is watching her through the window and he just says to himself, not so easy. Is it? Right.

It's like, what? Why did you pick the hardest to use thing to go on a killing spree? Right. You freak.

Also, it's like, I know you have a knife. He just slashed all over tires. Exactly. Which like the knife is like backup.

He's like my preferred weapon is the crossbow. Now, yeah, I kind of get right. Because like part of the thing, one thing that really belabers that he's a short king. Yeah.

And right, they go out of their way to say it's five, six. Yes. And he talks about how he would lose a fight to strapping Michael Trucco. Yep.

And so if the angle or the idea there is like he has the crossbow because he doesn't feel he's too, you know, it's he compensating for something. Yeah. He's too well, he's too low. He's confidence is too low to do close quarters combat with somebody.

Right. That's fine. I guess. But I.

Yeah. So, OK, let's talk about like the first 10 minutes or so, the setup, right? Which so we meet the KDC, the character, she's cooking dinner. Matty young.

Matty young. She's making a risotto and it sucks. Yeah. Every time she tastes it, she's like, yeah, it's terrible.

But strong emphasis in the beginning on all of the sounds, right? Like the clicking of the stove and then the sizzling of things in the pan. All of this, right. What's that movie that just came out?

That French food movie, the French food movie. I don't know what you're talking about. I think it's French. Come on.

You know, you know that dune or toy. Le dune. Le dune. In petit dune food, movie, 20, 24, the taste of things.

Oh, I don't know what that is. It is. I think it is maybe French. OK.

Or something. And what about that movie? It's very food heavy, a lot of sort of sounds. It's very sensual.

Sensuous. Sensuous. Yeah, that's what I said now. Just kidding.

But yeah, so she's making food. She's making food. And I like it. So then the camera sort of like shifts into like from like looking at Katie Seagulls, who like it moves into like her point of view.

And when it does that, the sound drops out and everything goes silent, right? Yeah. Which I liked. I thought that was like, oh, that's kind of like a clever little way to show that she is deaf without like specifically just saying like, well, since you've been deaf, which they do in like another five minutes with her.

Yeah. By the way, how did you become deaf again? And when? Yeah.

Right. Oh. I lost your hearing. Oh, 12, 13, whatever.

Does that mean that your voice inside your head is a child, like your child's voice, or whatever, which like all of this stuff. I feel like that line is in there so that later on when Katie Seagull is imagining herself, right, it's getting out in front of the cinema sins. Yes. Yeah, which is stupid because I don't care or just give her a 13 year old girl voice.

That would be too confusing. That would be very confusing. But even if nobody said anything and you just saw like the her imagining herself talking to herself or whatever, you wouldn't even think about it. No, you would never.

Question like, oh, why is she like? Why can't she hear the older version of herself if she lost her hearing when she was 12? Doesn't matter. Nobody cares.

Right. Is it just to let us know she has a vivid imagination? Oh, it which by the way comes in handy later on. Ah, I guess.

So she's cooking dinner and then her neighbor, Sarah, comes over to return her book that she wrote called Midnight Mass. Yeah. And she says, oh, I love the characters of Riley and Erin, which and at this point, Rob, I'm doing the Leo meme from once upon. I'm pointing at that TV beer in my hand.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I recognize those names. Hey, Katie Siegel, you play Aaron in the future of very prego, Aaron, by the way. He's yeah, he found a way to improve on the. The original draft of this script.

There's three pages of Sarah talking about how much he loved that. Aaron was pregnant. Man, I am interested to see the other pregnancies references in other other movies. Yeah, that's things coming up.

I thought you were just because Sam interested to see the other pregnancies. I want to say those other pregos. All right, Mike Flagen. For that again.

That's pulling flan again. Yeah, for forgetting. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. That's what I'm doing.

It's okay. So her and Sarah are talking Sarah is learning sign language, right? So and she seems to be getting better at it, she says. I liked all this like the interaction between the two of them.

Katie Siegel signing and not having like a it wasn't like over the top explaining everything that she was saying. You know, it wasn't like like a one-sided phone call kind of a thing. Right. Also not subtitled.

Oh, yes. Also not subtitled, correct, which like like as in a moose boosh for a movie that is very like visual storytelling heavy. I like that, but that's really not this movie. No, it's not.

Well, right. It's not what the movie becomes, which I guess on in retrospect. Yeah. Yeah.

So yeah, and then Sarah says, Oh, yeah, John is going to be home in a little bit. You know, maybe, oh, they're outside, right? And she's there, right. Sarah says something about John being home in a little bit and then the alarm, the smoke detector starts going off and it's crazy loud and also like flashing, like a strobe light.

So they run inside and they clear out all the smoke and whatever. She has burned her dinner and they make an explicit like reference to the smoke detector and how loud it is and all that. And now why would they mention that? Ah, check off smoke detector.

I see the smoking detector. I thought that at a certain, I don't know, I was expecting there to be a little bit more of a table turning when like towards the end, right, which there is to an extent. But I don't know. I was expecting much more of a, maybe a little bit more of a home alone kind of a thing, you know, with like, that's, that's not a fair complaint.

It's not a fair complaint. You can't expect it to be home alone. I know I can't expect it to be home alone, but I was expecting her to maybe use, you know, her, you know, her disability or whatever, to her advantage and against him. Yeah.