EPISODE · Jul 7, 2026 · 40 MIN
"I am You, You are Me" with Dr. Natalie Hart
from Our True Colors: Mixed Race Voices and Other Stories of Belonging · host Dr. Shawna Gann
MESSAGE ME HERE!Dr. Shawna Gann and her co-host, Marcel De Jonghe, sit down with Dr. Natalie Hart — speaker, consultant, and educator — for a warm, funny, and honest talk about growing up between cultures. Identifying as Afro-Latina and Latin Caribbean, Natalie shares how she moved past the pressure to prove she's "enough" for every community and learned to carry her full identity with confidence.In this episode:Why mixed-race folks feel they have to "prove" their heritageThe "no sabo kids" label and reclaiming culture across generationsRacial ambiguity as a superpower — and calling out harm in "safe spaces"Representation vs. diversity, and what leadership reveals about a company's valuesPlus Mixed Messages, on what really makes a workplace feel open-minded.If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Don't forget to follow us on Instagram!Our True Colors is powered by The Culture Crucible. Go to THE HUB to learn more!Consider joining the Critical Mixed Race Studies Association!
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MESSAGE ME HERE! Dr. Shawna Gann and her co-host, Marcel De Jonghe, sit down with Dr. Natalie Hart — speaker, consultant, and educator — for a warm, funny, and honest talk about growing up between cultures. Identifying as Afro-Latina and Latin Caribbean, Natalie shares how she moved past the pressure to prove she's "enough" for every community and learned to carry her full identity with confidence. In this episode: Why mixed-race folks feel they have to "prove" their heritage The "no sabo ki...
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