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EPISODE · Jul 23, 2026 · 50 MIN

I Eat the Stars with Sarah Wilson

from EZ Conversations · host Furkhan Dandia, Therapist

 In this episode of EZ Conversations, host Furkhan sits down with Sarah Wilson, author of I Eat the Stars, to have one of the most honest and important conversations about our moment in history. Sarah explains why she moved to Paris to write her book, what complex systems collapse actually means and why it is not new, why she gave up hope and what she found on the other side, how to face the three deaths our civilization must go through, and what practical steps any person can take right now to build resilience. This is the kind of conversation that rewires how you see the world.  Episode topics: complex systems, civilizational collapse, hope, death, spirituality, community, neoliberalism, indigenous wisdom, practical resilience.  Key moments:  - 1:44 Complex Systems Collapse explained  - 8:36 The Three Deaths  - 23:43 Why Sarah gave up hope  - 32:18 Loneliness as a systemic symptom  - 46:00 Practical takeaways Sarah Wilson is a multi-New York Times and Amazon bestselling author, podcaster, social philosopher, international keynote speaker, philanthropist, and climate change advisor. She is best known for founding the global I Quit Sugar movement, a digital wellness initiative built around 13 award-winning books published in 52 countries. After helping millions improve their health, Sarah sold the business in 2022 and donated the proceeds to charity. Before becoming an internationally recognized author, Sarah built a distinguished career in journalism and broadcasting. She became editor of Cosmopolitan Australia at just 29 years old, hosted MasterChef Australia, worked as a journalist and columnist with News Corp, and has appeared regularly on ABC's Compass, Network Ten's The Project, and numerous Australian, UK, and US television programs over the past two decades. Her New York Times bestseller First, We Make the Beast Beautiful has been described by bestselling author Mark Manson as "the best book on living with anxiety that I've ever read" and was selected as a Book of the Year on NBC's Today. Her book This One Wild & Precious Life received the 2021 US Gold Nautilus Award. Sponsors of the Podcast:AG1: Includes a free welcome kit. https://shop.drinkag1.com/EZCONVERSATIONS. Use BACK2ROUTINE for 20% off your first subscription.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BetterHelp⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: https://betterhelp.com/ez10, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for 10% off your first month of therapy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Aura⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: For a free two-week trial⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dookio⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: https://trydokkio.com/ezconversations⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠NuCalm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: for a one-week free trial⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Descript ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: https://get.descript.com/EZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LeanWorlds⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: https://get.learnworlds.com/EZCONVERSATIONS⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. Lewis Nutrition ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: https://drlewisnutrition.com/ez⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WeInspect⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: https://www.thedusttest.net/M81HLR/3QQG7/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Optery⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: https://%20https://get.optery.com/EZCONVERSATIONS⁠Eleven Labs⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: https://try.elevenlabs.io/EZCONVERSATIONS⁠Jane⁠: https://janesoftware.partnerlinks.io/EZCONVERSATIONSFour Sigmatic: https://us.foursigmatic.com/EZ for 20% off using the code: EZSubscribe to the EZ Reflections Newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ez-reflections-newsletter.beehiiv.com/subscribe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Disclaimer: The content shared on this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and should not be considered therapy, counselling, or clinical advice. Listening to this podcast does not establish a therapist–client relationship. The views expressed are my own and are separate from my clinical practice. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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In this episode of EZ Conversations, Sarah discusses the ideas behind her latest book, I Eat the Stars, exploring anxiety, meaning, uncertainty, modern life, philosophy, and how we can cultivate resilience in an increasingly complex world.

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