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EPISODE · Jun 23, 2026 · 50 MIN

Why Billionaire CZ Says U.S. Crypto Users Are Getting a Bad Deal

from CoinDesk Podcast Network · host CoinDesk

Changpeng Zhao, founder and former CEO of Binance, sits down with CoinDesk’s Jennifer Sanasie for one of his most candid conversations. CZ talks about growing up in an immigrant family, why he's never taken on real debt, the four months he spent in U.S. prison, the $2 million he's quietly donated to prison reform, and why he believes "there's no delete button" for crypto.  - Check out CoinDesk's latest episode of Public Keys from the NYSE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75LrBmSScvY&list=PLZWrc_gWChqnim-9ZbIKZTOrPA7IgFKVR&index=1 - Register now for CoinDesk’s Policy and Regulation event on September 22, 2026: https://policy-regulation.coindesk.com/. - Timecodes: 00:00 Welcome to CoinDesk Spotlight 00:20 When CZ First Realized Money Mattered 03:08 A Frugal Mindset and Why He Never Took On Debt 04:35 His Father's Journey to Canada 06:30 Freedom of Money vs. Financial Freedom 08:28 Why CZ Wants to Spend More Time in the U.S. 11:52 Binance, U.S. Rivals, and Regulatory Pressure 14:39 Losing Trust - and Why the U.S. Constitution Is a "Great White Paper" 17:17 The Next Administration and the CLARITY Act 19:11 Reflecting on 2022: Was Crypto Too "Drunk" on Hype? 21:36 How AI and Crypto Are Merging 25:17 Crypto's 2026 Challenges 28:03 Inside CZ's Four Months in Prison 31:18 Why CZ Donated $2M to Prison Reform 32:57 What Inmates and Guards Asked Him About Crypto 36:26 Writing His Book: "A Conversation With Myself" 39:15 The Weaknesses and Strengths Prison Revealed 41:17 CZ's Advice to Founders 44:22 Why Most of His Wealth Is Still in BNB 45:31 Binance's Largest Shareholder, But No Longer Running It 48:56 On Legacy: "Be Happy With Myself"

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