Ian Cook - Job Titles are Dead, Long Live Job Titles!

Send us a text Whatever happened to job titles and what do they even mean anymore? In this episode I am welcoming back Dino Zincarini and Ian Cook to talk about the what, why, and where around the applicability job titles have to HR and how the job table is changing.Dino, as you may remember, is an HR Technologist and Consultant who works alongside myself at Turetsky Consulting, while Ian is VP in people analytics at Visier making him responsible for the over direction and growth of the company. Now that you have Dino and Ian’s job titles in mind, let’s dive into today’s topic; are job titles dead… Long live job titles! [00:01 - 01:42] Opening Segment  We welcome back Ian Cook and Dino Zincarini Introducing today’s topic   [03:43 - 10:58] There is a Long History of Job Titles; What are They Used For? Ian talks about the issues at the job table and why it’s important Dino talks about the changes in the job titling model  The boundaries around jobs are becoming fluid   [10:59 - 19:53] Why THIS is the Time to Talk About Job Architecture and Titling  Ian talks about the triggers that are starting this conversation  The issue of compliance and possible solutions Tools, resources, and consulting    [19:54 - 34:02] The Future of Job Titles; Do We Need Them? Dino talks about the consistent need to brand your work Looking past the job titles to the person, but using the standardization  How to prepare for changes in job titling and its fluidity   [34:03 - 27:20] Closing Segment Summary of our conversation  Final Words Tweetable Quotes: “That interest to give people a sense of uniqueness through title or through a new job you're adding, really clashes with the harmonization of the architecture of the jobs that need to have some way of being compared internally.” - Ian Cook  “The more we try to use data, the more we want to standardize it, yet the more we want to have things proliferate, the more it becomes differentiated… there’s no one right answer.” - Dino Zincarini “The faster you think about it, come up with a plan or a strategy and maybe even the technology to support this divergence in the branding of jobs and the standardization… the sooner you can come up with a plan on how you’re going to manage that - the better.” - Dino Zincarini Resources Mentioned: Salary.com EMSI  Connect with Dino on LinkedIn. Connect with Ian on LinkedIn. Visit https://www.visier.com/ to learn more about Ian’s space. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Connect with me:  LinkedIn Twitter Email: [email protected] This show is brought to you by Turetsky Cons To schedule a meeting with us: https://salary.com/hrdlconsulting For more HR Data Labs®, enjoy the HR Data Labs Brown Bag Lunch Hours every Friday at 2:00PM-2:30PM EST. Check it out here: https://hrdatalabs.com/brown-bag-lunch/ Produced by Affogato Media