Ian Gibbs-Hall on Curiosity Architecture and Rethinking Identity

MESSAGE ME HERE!In this episode of Our True Colors, Shawna is joined by co-host Rachel Sadler and special guest Ian Gibbs-Hall—a DEI advocate, thought leader, and creator of Curiosity Architecture. With over a decade of experience creating inclusive environments, Ian offers a fresh framework that invites us to move beyond checkboxes and binaries and into deeper, more curious ways of seeing one another.Together, they explore identity, belonging, masculinity, and the limitations of social categories—highlighting how “other” doesn’t just mean different, but often means left out. From coloring books to Frozen 2, neoliberalism to Mr. Clean, this conversation is as layered as it is enlightening.And yes—you’ll want to check out the video version for the moment Ian reacts to Shawna revealing she used to work at Blockbuster Video.✉️ Want to submit a question for the final episode? Use the message feature above to send a text.📚 Referenced Resources & LinksThe Ethics of Identity by Kwame Anthony Appiah: Buy the book | Watch a video about his workCommentary on the Mr. Clean Commercial (yes, that one): Watch it hereWhat’s a “Soy Boy” anyway? Read more on the term and its cultural baggage🎧 Related OTC EpisodesCJ Gross on Navigating Identity & NuanceLondell Jackson on Masculinity & BelongingIf this is your first time with OTC, check out  EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Don't forget to follow us on Instagram!Our True Colors is powered by The Culture Crucible. Go to THE HUB to learn more!Consider joining the Critical Mixed Race Studies Association!