ICE vs Krampus - Reality in USA vs Fiction in Bavaria

from Over Here, Over There: International Politics & Culture Podcast · host Dan Harris and Claudia Koestler

While America debates immigration raids, a Town in the Federal State of Bavaria in Germany literally imported demons to chase families through Christmas markets. Sounds crazy? Wait until you hear the logic behind it. Claudia Koestler, co-host of the podcast ‪@OverHereOverThere‬ witnessed the Krampuslauf firsthand and discovered something about human nature that explains both German Christmas demons AND American ICE raids. This isn't just about folklore - it's about how societies choose their monsters. You won't look at either country the same way again.See more of our episodes here, and please don't forget to like, subscribe, share and comment. We look forward to hearing from you!

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