"If we didn't collect enough copper wire and bottles to sell, we starved"

Professor Gracelyn Smallwood said in an interview for Noosa Community Radio she expects her three talks, based on her PhD thesis to go feral internationally. The thesis is to be published by a London publisher Routledge "because it was too hot a potato for Australian publishers" she approached. Audio 1. If we didn't collect enough copper wire and bottles to sell, we starved