EPISODE · Oct 29, 2025 · 41 MIN
“If you’re not frightened”
from Deadline: White House · host Lieutenant General Mark Hertling, Ambassador Michael McFaul, Nicolle Wallace, Marc Elias, David Graham
October 29th, 2025, 5pm: The Atlantic’s David Graham delivers a startling look into the future efforts to subvert elections in the U.S. in a new piece that he joins Nicolle Wallace and Democracy Docket’s Marc Elias to unpack. And later in the hour, military experts join Nicolle to lay out how Donald Trump is using troops to hurdle the country towards autocracy.For more, follow us on Instagram @deadlinewhTo listen to this show and other MSNBC podcasts without ads, sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. For more from Nicolle, follow and download her podcast, “The Best People with Nicolle Wallace,” wherever you get your podcasts.To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Nicolle Wallace discusses the foundations of election subversion that the Trump administration is already setting and the new threats he’s making to send the military to American cities.
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