EPISODE · Sep 23, 2025 · 32 MIN
Ignore the Hard Stop: Building Trust & Connection at Work (with Ben James)
from Dying Out Loud Podcast · host Dying Out Loud Podcast
The Value of Consistency: Finding Mentorship and Trust with Ben James This episode highlights the profound value of meaningful relationships that start at work and evolve into something more. Kris Saim welcomes Ben James, a colleague and Chief Innovation Officer, whose consistent presence, laughter, and coaching conversations have become a grounding rhythm in Kris's life. Ben models the kind of intentional leadership that believes in making time for human connection in a fast-paced professional world. He reveals that his strategy is to create "parking lot time" with colleagues—the space outside the formal meeting—which instantly builds the trust needed for genuine collaboration. Kris shares how Ben’s example of patience and resilience through pressure and complexity has actually made him a braver person. Their weekly chats exemplify how creating a safe space for dialogue leads to breakthroughs that are not only fulfilling but also lucrative. Ben offers practical advice for cultivating deep relationships: "Sometimes you gotta ignore the hard stop. Just go ahead and like, let the next thing go to spend time with the people that you're with." This episode is a powerful reminder that the people who show up for you quietly and consistently are the ones who change you, and that making space for that connection is the hugest source of joy.
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Host Kris Saim welcomes his colleague, trusted confidant, and Chief Innovation Officer, Ben James, for a conversation celebrating the power of intentional human connection. Their deep friendship evolved from a quick call Ben made after a Teams meeting—what he calls ”parking lot time”. Kris credits Ben with teaching him resilience and patience, noting that Ben has a way of ”grounding every room” by creating genuine space built out of kindness . They discuss the value of embracing ”talking in circles” and divergent thinking to reach invaluable breakthroughs . This conversation is a powerful tribute to how professional relationships can become personal lifelines. Kris shares that the work he gets to do is a ”hundred percent the reason that I’m still alive today” , and connections like this are one of his hugest sources of joy. Ben’s advice: ”ignore the hard stop” and make time for people.
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