Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome to our channel expert. I'm Dan Shepherd. I'm joined by Monica Mouse. Hi there.
Today we have 12 time returning guests, Ike Berenholtz, now an award-winning actor in comedian, the studio, the Mindy Project Blockers, neighbors, running point. And he has a new podcast out now that I've been on. I'm proud to say I hadn't been at the time of this interview and I have since. Yes.
It's called Funny You Ask. And I'm telling you, it is a blast. You do trivia and you shoot the show. We do a little trivia in this episode.
And I want to just, I did not represent my people well. Okay. Any of my people, Indian people, American people, women. Oh, under 40 humans, really.
I did a bad job and I'm sorry. Mermaids. Bad look for mermaids. It really was came out of nowhere in your defense.
You were correct. No, I'm just bad at trivia. That's fine. What does it get you?
If anyone wants to like give me lessons, trivia lessons, DM me. You're going to get actually a lot of offers. Men love teaching women. Oh, God, right.
Yeah. Please enjoy Ike Berenholtz. Oh, welcome back to our most returning guests. Am I number one?
No, no, no. I'm not. You're going to be like Andrew Huberman's been on 17 times or some shit. We've only had one Huberman appearance.
I just hold on to the first double video. That sounds accurate. Double penetration. Double panning.
Double bag. That is true. Now we're starting off right away. Right in the water.
The blue. Never work blue. Funny. That's rule number one.
Never work blue. It has been virtually a year on the dot since your last appearance. Makes sense. It feels like a checkup, like a physical.
Mm. And then it got me wondering how on top of that are you because I'm going to have my physical next week and I have a colonoscopy Monday. So I'm writing the throes of lots of. Health scheduling.
I had my physical Monday. You did? Okay, great. A fasting physical or you got to just arrive.
I can't have anything but water in the morning, which is so hard. And coffee, black coffee. You get a black coffee, but I need like half and half. I'm such a basic little.
I need my half and half. I need it. That one morning I was like, ah, it's like going to back. But it was good.
He's a great doctor. He checked my process for like an hour. Oh, it's like a full extended remix. He has his worries or that's for every one.
I don't know if I told you this. The first time I had him check my prostate. I didn't know what to expect. Personally, there's not been a whole lot in that direction in that place.
I was like, oh, I'm not going to work. You put your own finger in your butt. Never. Not really.
I was a teenager and I was like masturbating and I thought, I was just trying every single thing. There was just something that I was just like, I don't need to do that. Not interesting. No, it's a personal thing.
Even as like a crazy perverted Jewish teenager, I was like, eh, I'm going to skip that one. So suffice to say you probably never ever had anything in your butt. Nothing substantial for more than a few seconds. Okay.
Okay. I wasn't feeling I was longing to return to. No, maybe that one was a long time ago. Okay.
You'll tip me. I'll put a big gift jar. I'll tip me. I'll explore Tory.
Okay. Oh, wow. It felt crazy. I was like, oh, it's done in two seconds.
And I was so happy he was done. He goes, oh, your prostate is perfect. You didn't do that. Oh, my God.
Not like the stuff, it's just my fingers in the mouth immediately. But he handed me a box tissue. You use that toy. I like the blue belt.
And for reasons I'll never know, I went, I'm fine. Oh, like it was a masculinity right? I wanted this to kind of move past it. And I didn't want it to be over.
And I didn't want it to be like, thank you. So I was like, I'm good. And he goes, Okay. I'm like, like the next ten minutes, I'm just going to flop it and slide in around, squishy You have potentially bleeding through them to see it's the pro you know blood.
No, no, no, see people. Right, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bleaching, yeah.
Bleaching, I don't need to stop leaching into my Lincoln. I went on Monday, it was great, everything was really good. And you got in there again. Every time.
The colonoscopy is only every couple of years. The prostate is every year. The digital exam they say, yeah, the colonoscopy, have you wrapped one before? Oh, yeah, I've had so many.
Yeah. Yeah, you have like one a week. I used to because in my family, I had on my mother's side an uncle that had a colosomy and then my cousin that was my age had to have one in this 20. So family history then.
I can't tell you how many. And then I finally saw one out here and he goes, it doesn't really generally move on the maternal side, like you don't need to get this many. So then I backed off for a while. And now I'm back in a five year rotation.
I will say I love the nap. Sure. Michael Jackson. I'm already rehearsing my charming pitch to them.
Because first they give you a verced to relax you, but then they hit you with the propofol really quick. Yeah, yeah. But that window of verced is all I get. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's once every five years. Tell me, you know, drop the per set. Then I'll make a phone call, get some coffee, come back and then with the propofol. Exactly.
that out in the least addicty, most charming way possible. Where they don't think I'm a drug seeker just getting this procedure to get that 30 seconds of her set. So it's a fine line I'm walking. The worst part though for me is the prep, the night before the super prep.
I drink it. It tastes like poison that is going bad. Like a turnt poison. It is like comical.
How quickly you go from like, I'm on a zoom, everything's cool to like fucking Lloyd from Dumb and Dumber. Yeah. Torentials the only adjective monsoon season in my bathroom. Are you gonna weigh yourself before and after?
You know on erotica I'm about all this. And also my procedure is kind of late on money. And I'm like, I'm gonna lose like five pounds probably. So the last couple days I've been forogiously knowing we have this moment of scarcity coming.
But I kind of knew it was coming and this didn't occur to me until this morning. So Kristen hosts the SAG Awards on Sunday. Yeah. Of course you will.
Yes, I think it's a bit for us which we're very, very grateful for. So what we did last year was like I bring the kids up and we hang backstage and it's really fine. We get to see mom. And so that's of course the plan again this year.
And then just as far as I brush my teeth on it, I said that Kristen I said, you know love I'm going to be evacuating every 15, 20 minutes on Sunday. That's my prep day. Oh no. I'm nervous about the logistics of me juggling two kids.
You can't. And a public diaper. You got to dip up. Oh no.
You got to dip up. Well so bad. And it's a communal bathroom, you know, and it's all my heroes and I'm going to be in and out of there with full torrential sounds. Dude, you're going to be just blasting off next to Stella and scar guard.
I love to say that. You wins this award. He's like, I just want to say that Shepherd gave the best of a paint job before. The real suffering.
I knew suffering until I shared a book. This really does need to be thought through. Yeah, you got to make a plan. I can only forget what's going to happen.
I know me and I know my history. So I'm going to load up at noon and start the process. And I know by four, I'm going to say it's all done. We're safe to go kids in the car.
We know this is going to happen. But we can't make the show about your poo. You're going to be hugging Ted dancing and you're just going, I can't not go to this for Kristen and not bring the kids. So this is going to happen.
But I already know that I'm going to be way too confident by four p.m. when I leave for the show. I'll be like, yeah, I had four hours of it. There's nothing last.
Start earlier. Start at nine. Yeah. Well, that's the whole.
Yes. That's the world. I think my second goes right as I'm walking into the theater. I just decide like fuck it.
Let's go all in. You can't really anticipate. No, I'm looking for it. So we had a bulletproof schedule and now I'm going to be flushing out my whole lower GI.
My mistake I learned was the day after because I'm so hungry and I was like, I'm going to treat myself and I ordered from rest in peace son of a gun. One of my favorite restaurants. It was in a longer shop. It was like a New England seafood place.
But they have a lobster roll. Oh, I was crazy. It was a giant of any people. That is like taking a riding mower onto the Autobahn.
I was just like, not ready for what that rocks. So that's the number. So you know what's funny for me? Every time I do it, I get the craving for the exact same thing.
It's McDonald's french rice. But I can't again, I know it'll be like, oh, I'm about a couple hours away from McDonald's french rice. That's a nice treat. That's a nice treat.
Yeah, that's a good. Makes the whole thing almost worth it. Now back to your digital exam on your prostate. Yeah.
You mind must go to the exact same place. Mine does 100%. I think even maybe if you could count us down on three, what do you want to do the second he puts his finger in your butt and you count us down from three? Let's see if we get lucky.
Three, two, one. Moon River. Wow. Damn, I thought for sure we did that.
Wow. That was. That was. That was.
I'm sorry. I know. No, no, no, no. Moon River.
Moon River. Moon River. Moon River. Oh, thank you.
It was like, what the fuck? But I knew he and then, and then Doc used in the whole fish. Is the whole fish up there, Doc? Did you watch the Chevy documentary?
I did. I started and I stopped. You did? Tell me why.
Because it was just bumming me out. Full disclosure. I had heard nothing but horrible stories about him for years. Oh, oh, for guys, I got, he was a big, big guy.
National End Putgation. I'm sorry. It's like one of my favorite movies. Great.
It's so fucking great. It's so much. It's so much. It's so much.
It's so much. It's so much. I heard all these stories for years and I started watching it. I was like, I just want to have the memory.
Yeah, it's okay. But there are several different things that could have been the things that took you out of it. So that's why I'm curious. Is it that like, here's a guy who is now doing small shows to support himself?
Is it that bummer? Is it how he's treating the interviewer? Bummer. I loved him.
And then just got more and more depressed every time I heard stories of people who worked with him, right? But I watched the Doc and I ended up with like kind of a lot of compassion for him. I mean, he had a very fucked up childhood for sure. And I will say, seems like he is a really good dad and husband now loves his family.
Yeah. Yeah. Here's what gave me the compassion is I think there is a category of person who's an asshole and they don't give a fuck and they're not even questioning it. And then I think there are people that are assholes and they themselves are suffering greatly from it.
There's no fucking one I don't care and there's no wreckage or bill to pay. But when I'm watching that, I'm like, yeah, he's deeply uncomfortable. A lot of the time in his own skin and he's got impulse shit and he's probably an HD and all these things and addict. I don't think the guy's winning.
It's not like he's feeling great about being an asshole. No, but I guess to me, he was winning for so long. I never get someone who had it and then just kind of threw. I would say his behavior a little bit.
Yeah, yeah. Lost it. It's hard for me to really find somebody there. Like I don't think he's like a hateful man, but I just want to remember him talking to like Eugene Levy in vacation and that will be my memory of him.
I don't need to see him old and feeble and like yelling at like a woman who's like asking him questions. Yeah, yeah. Cranky. Did you make it to the part though, or they go through his talk show that he did?
No, but I remember that talk show. Okay. Goldfish. You know, it was one of the biggest bombs.
Or really 1994 it was talk show media. So Jesse had one or Stineo Hall, Joan Rivers tried one. But why is there only Johnny Carson? Started one and then Chevy was like the big blue chip new talk show for 94.
I can't imagine exactly. He was completely unsuited for it. So that's the part I would have liked for you to have seen because this guy is defined by his confidence. He just starts right away on saying live when you see that early footage of it.
It's crazy. It's so much fucking swagger. And then he's playing the piano confidently. He's doing everything.
He's written on the superpower of confidence and he gets on that stage and they show the footage and he already kind of knows it's not going to be great and to see him having lost that entirely. You can feel it as you and I and you anyone is a performance man on stage to watch that dude have to go out there every night with zero confidence and just suffer through it until they kill it. He certainly took some on the chin along the way. He gave way too much.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he also suffered like motherfucker. But I suffered when I watched nothing but trouble. The other guy I want to ask you about that I presume you watched is did you watch the Scorsese one that I like inhaled?
He's your guy. He's the boy. He's the guy. All of his movies anytime they're on TV I'll watch all of them.
He's the greatest and the doc was amazing. I could have watched another three or four parts of it. Okay, but now any sadness now I guess you run the risk of you like he was on the show and maybe he'll be back. So maybe you have some personal relationship with him.
He's a coaster. He's a close friend. I drive him this morning. Is he would drop you off?
He'd drop me off. Okay. He hangs out in LA. He's great for airport pickup.
I can be landing at LAX and right when they say you turn your phone I can text him and wherever he's at in the city he'll come and get me in the kitchen. He's got sadness in his life. The things that I thought were really helpful is you just look at his career in the totality and you really ignore that he had tons and tons of valleys and he had tons of back to the drawing boards. So that stuff is really encouraging.
Even in the doc and he'll be the first to admit it. If Leo doesn't come around and say I want to work with you don't know what's going to happen. He's not getting movies made and he's not getting people signing up at that moment. Leo takes him on a ride that is incredible and he's a real savior at that moment.
Oh yeah. Because he does kiss you know which is bomb but then he's so cool that then he makes like the age of innocence which is like a complete departure from him and then he does the Nick age movie which again totally crazy different movie. It doesn't work. He owns it in the doc.
Leo he definitely makes me just love Leo. I love that guy. I like being reminded that you could be as talented as Martin's or something and then also the luck gods need to be on your side too. And then ultimately though I will say and it's a super selfish but he paid an enormous price to be as good as he was.
He was so hyper focused and he ignored everything in his life. Yes. All the way they'll tell you that. They'll say it.
The kids will say it. And for me I was just watching it and I was like I'm very sad with this. That's not the outcome I'm looking for. I guess I don't give a fuck about being a genius.
Me personally if it came down to my family both the one I have here in the one in Vegas. Oh actually. And an Academy Award opportunity that made you ignore them for two years. Right.
And I'm like I'm not a fan of that guy. I'm just like I'll work last whatever. He's not. Yeah.
I'm grateful for us. I'm very grateful for that because of the work he gives. But also there is something now about like seeing him with Francesca now and his daughter. And it feels like he is at peace now.
He is connected to his family. I think their relationship is beautiful. I think she looks at herself as like a steward of his art. And also putting him I don't know if you guys follow her on TikTok but like the videos of her and him together are so fucking adorable.
Oh, you. I have seen him. I had seen all that before the doc knowing where he's at now. I didn't hit me as much.
I was just grateful. I was grateful he made it out in the 70s. Most of the great guys out of the 70s never made it out. He spent a couple of years inside doing coke with fucking aluminum foil on the windows.
A crazy man with coke and asthma condition and like crazy. And so I'm just grateful that he made it out. Can you imagine if he didn't we've never had good fellows. Yeah.
He's such a shitty role. So my takeaway was just like I'm so happy for him. I was like for a guy that I worked with for like five hours one day but my takeaway was like he's a close friend him and Dave's dad center my two closest. You since we saw you have become a very winning man.
Hashtag winning. You've been winning and how's it changed your personality? But dick. Yeah.
You know on an interpersonal level now I never had that before but I'm very short rude with my friends. Can we read this fucking thing up by the way? Yeah. I'm surprised we even came back.
I'm being honest. Absolutely nothing has changed. But does it make you feel like oh I kind of want to keep like now you're in this elite. It's one of the things for years you're like I don't get a shit about award shows.
Then you get nominated for one you're like I'm excited for this one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I think you have people team friends who are like it's either you or her support. And that's just what it's going to be. And so I remember being not shocked but being like holy shit I didn't win.
Here's what I want to fuck and being like man. I'm so mad that I was mad about this shit. So I remember going into the critics' joints being like I'm not paying attention to this going in. This is wonderful.
I'm honored but I'm just like I'm not going to allow myself to be caught being upset about it. Yeah. Then I remember the second they call the category I was like oh please pick me. Yeah.
That's the honest truth. I think I think everyone feels that way even if they say yes they know. I'm not going to do a speech that you were excited to deliver because you're a great writer and you're a live performer for the Emmys I did because I was just like I'm not going to win. I'm not going to put myself in that position.
Yeah. So then I was like fuck so then I just was like I love my wife. I'm just like so much. Please come up here.
Well I did when I got there. The first thing I did was just looking at the crowd and locked eyes with Benicio and I was like I can't do that. I can't do that. I'm so cool for me man.
It's so cool for me man. Okay. Gaze upon him. In general that show the few I've been at with where it's at it kind of sweeps.
It's an insanely winning show. Oh my God. It's what everything has been up for more or less. Yeah.
Yeah. So the vibe of all being together and going to the different things together is this the most fun stuff is the greatest guy to Evan Goldberg is so fun. Catherine Han case we wonders is the funniest to great great group and good people to be with those things. Now I want to ask this question is dicey in that it may sound like I'm implying something.
I'm not I'm genuinely curious. You've been on a bunch of different things that have worked. I don't know what ratings are and stuff is America like we are all the studio 100%. How does it compare to being on like Mindy or running point?
I don't know. I know that a lot of people come up who are not in the business like I was just flying. I just flew to Canada and the guy sitting in front of us was watching the studio and I could kind of see it and he steps around the bathroom and looked at me and goes I want you to know I was watching that before I saw you. I love people not in the business love the show.
Like that is very cool. And I think they did a good job even though the show was no matter what about the business inside baseball. They do hit on themes. They're pretty universal.
Everyone's got like a boss who's annoying or they want credit for an idea like my friend Debbie. She's like I want you to know my husband literally does not watch TV. He doesn't watch anything except Ohio State sports. He loves the studio.
Oh, that's great. We're going to like it because we're going to be in this situation. I think this day and age for a show to work either has to have huge ratings like running point or good ratings like great ratings. People love it.
Critics love it. It wins awards. I imagine the studio kind of falls in that category where people watch it. It gets good numbers, but it's not like a Netflix like running point, which is like a big global global global global global global global global global global global global global global global.
It's my favorite show to work. It's so fun. Everyone's so great. It's just wonderful people.
So you guys have already shot season two or you're in the process or you're right now. You're doing it right now. We're doing it right now. Literally.
And what is your work schedule like on that? We're able to break off a couple hours for this and that for this. A couple hours. It is weird.
It's not your typical show where it's like, okay, today is just chase. And then tomorrow is all of us. And then it's just set. It's like usually everyone's not ever seen and the way they shoot it.
It was a time where I got there and they were like, actually, don't think you're going to be in this. And I was like, okay, it's one of those shows where you just completely surrender to the schedule. You're on call. You're like an OB.
I am. I've been doing some amateur OB. You're kind of a hobbyist. I'm more.
Insusius. Ob one Kenobi. Is that anything? If your baby doctor's last name was Kenobi.
My OB is Kenobi. Is that like a fun one with Riffon? It's got a lot of setup. I'll just say that.
What if your last name was Kenobi? Yes. You should probably go in. Ob one.
That's right. That's right. That's some fucking fun guys. Okay, so you're doing that one right now and then is running point in production.
Running point is not a production, but we're starting to kind of get some ideas together for season three. So you've already completed season two. Season two is what they call in the business in the can. Oh, nice.
Have you seen Song Song Club by the way? No. I've heard it's great. The movie's so good.
Her performance, it's one of the best I've seen in so long. I was so fucking happy for her because I remember her telling me about this movie. She's like, it's really fun. It's me and you.
I knew the band that it's about. You did? Yeah, because they were in Chicago. People would be like, I was in Milwaukee last weekend.
I saw this Neil Diamond cover band. It's a lady. So I remember them. I remember Pearl Jam having them open for a really long time.
And then she told me about the movie. And then she said, I think she's going to come out on Christmas Day. And I was like, focus features is putting a movie out on Christmas Day. They think it is really good.
And I saw it. We went to the screening and like once a month ago, it was so embarrassing. How hard I was crying. It's emotional.
It's emotional. She's so great at it. I hope she wins the Oscar. She just killed it.
How much are you crying these days? You're approaching 50, right? You're around the corner? No.
What the fuck? I have questions. I'm sorry. I'm way off.
36. I got to go, guys. I'm sure you're late to something. I'm approaching 49.
Okay. I'm just recording. I cry not maybe as much but more violently and worse. Oh, okay.
So frequency is the same. But those two seem to be a little less. Yeah, because before it was crying like, I'm having fun watching TV. That's a nice commercial.
Now I'm just stoic, stoic, stoic. And then life happens or the external world happens and I'll go into my closet. And what are the triggers? Daddy daughter stuff?
How do we do with daddy daughter stuff? Daddy daughter stuff's not too bad only because I think my kids are younger than yours. And they're still only, we love dad and want to hang out. But the interstellar one side of baby, it's like, oh, this guy's going to miss his daughter's life.
I'm just strong. Yo, yo, yo, yo. I was in Italy for two and a half weeks away from my family and I'm flying back home. And I was like, man, I've been watching interstellar.
No horrible idea. And you just missed two and a half weeks of your family's life. The scene when he walks in and he's like, oh my gosh, my daughter, my f***ing lost it on all Italian. Like Robert De Niro would analyze this.
To me, it's more like we're at the age now where people are dying, where you have life catching up, you have friends with kids that get sick. That's the real shit. That's the stuff where you're crying. You don't feel silly about it.
You're like, I f***ing need to do this. And then there's just the random things. Like I watched a clip the other day of I want to say it was maybe the Liverpool football club soccer match. I'm not going to cry.
I'm not going to cry. But it was them and it was like, yeah, you're halfway there. Yeah. It's like this sweet handicap kid in the show, but it's like, who's a Liverpool fan?
He's like, oh, yeah. They take him. They take him to the stadium and they meet every player and then they put him on the sidelines. And I was like, I'm an Arsenal fan.
But I might have to switch to Liverpool now. That was like 807 on the toilet. Stop. Stop.
But it's still overall less than it was probably a year ago. A couple years ago. I don't know why I made it because I'm too busy. I made it because it's too busy to cry.
It's the name of my whole life. We have a theory that these older men, it's all burbled up their whole life and it's coming out all the time to exercise every day. Yeah. Especially older guys.
Probably the 80s. If you cried in front of one of your buddies, it was like, you're okay. They had a better just been blown up in that car. Yeah, it wasn't a thing.
There was a stigma to it. And then it started in the 90s. You started seeing like modern dads. And now it is a good thing.
And it says it's bad. That's nonsense. It's good to get it out. Stay tuned for more armchair expert.
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You're very emotional. Like I'm an emotional guy. I think you are more emotional than me. That might be true.
But I think it was very hidden. Well, you're sensitive. I'm very sensitive. I bet I'm more sensitive than you.
Yours are now what? Six, eight and 12. Eight, 10 and 12. The 12 year old.
I have a 12 year old. Yes. Have we started to have any moments where they break your heart? Oh my God.
Yeah. And were you prepared for it? I mean, you're just about to think about it. Do you find yourself going like, wow, I'm so deeply hurt in this moment and I know not as opposed to me.
For me, it's like small things. I try not to let it affect me. For instance, a couple weeks ago, I love to cook. Five nights a week, they say.
Pretty much, if I'm not shooting. Easy, five nights a week. One night's burgers, one night, maybe we'll get ramen or some. But I cooked dinner.
So excited, made daughters favorite things. And at four o'clock she was like, hey, I'm going to sleep at Lulis. And I was like, yeah, you should. Yeah.
I'm so happy. You have a good friend. Oh, yeah. I would never be like, no, what the fuck?
outlets and mashed potatoes. So there's moments like that, once you get a little bit older, I feel like that's when it will really start to kind of hit more. I feel bad when they feel bad about something. That's the empathy kind of thing of like, oh, they're having a hard time with this.
I get mad for my daughter when she has to do a ton of homework. Don't you remember as a kid being like, go fuck is this shit? What a scam. It's bullshit.
I go to school all day, busting my ass. You know what, I was not even, you know what I was rarely trying. Then I got come home and deal with this shit, no. And so I've always hated homework and seeing them after like hours of homework, I'm like, just want to be kids.
Have you had a Valentine's heart break yet? No, no, no, no. She has been perfect amount of healthy detachment when it comes to boys. We're clearly like her and her girlfriends talk about it.
And some of her girls are boy crazy. I love Timothy Shelming, right? There's like some go-tos. Here's what they love.
Timothy is a big one. I get it. We all get it. My oldest daughter loves Tyler, the creator.
Oh, right pig. She just thinks he's so cool. She like wants to be his friend. And then who else does she love?
She had a huge crush on Anthony Davis played for the Lakers for years. Okay. It was like 714. You're out of the gym.
You can go brown. She's like, he's so dreamy. Not Timmy and Tyler, I'd say. The one's like, I saw Tyler at like cookbook.
Oh, I know he hangs out there. He loves it. Yeah. He's like, you don't know which one.
Don't say which one. I told her that I saw him there. She was like, what? Wow.
Yeah. He's cool. So she loves Marty Supreme then. We let her watch some of Marty Supreme, but it's with stress and rattle.
Yeah, it's okay. She loves Dune. Loves the Dune. I do too.
So do I. Really good. He's really good. He's one of these classic guys where it's like, I am predisposed to hate his guts.
Cause he's the opposite of me. He's like you. He speaks French. Every girl loves him.
I'm already mad at him. He's too good. Yeah. Do you guys see Marty Supreme?
Yes. He's unreal. He's so good. I'm going to just throw shade.
I don't care. I really enjoyed the movie. Yeah. He's so good.
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Who is he? Who is he? Who is he? Who is he?