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EPISODE · Sep 8, 2025 · 55 MIN

I’ll Fly Away Stories of Disabled Elders

from Chatting With Betsy · host Betsy Wurzel

Betsy Wurzel’s guest today is Dr. Marc Sapir, author of I’ll Fly Away: Stories of Disabled Elders. In this inspiring interview, Dr. Sapir shares why he gave his book the title I’ll Fly Away, drawn from the 1929 song about freedom. He explains how the theme of freedom connects deeply with the lives of elderly and disabled individuals—social beings who deserve respect, autonomy, and dignity.During their conversation, Betsy and Dr. Sapir explored the PACE model program for elderly and disabled individuals, which recognizes them as cultural beings who should be supported in living meaningful lives. They discussed how music plays a vital role in bringing joy, connection, and healing, and why being socially active is essential for well-being.Another important topic they covered was end-of-life care. Dr. Sapir stressed how crucial it is to make your wishes known through a medical directive, ensuring that family or friends honor those decisions—even if they might disagree. He emphasized that, for many people, quality of life matters more than quantity.Dr. Sapir also shared stories of individuals featured in I’ll Fly Away: Stories of Disabled Elders, reflecting on the lessons he has learned from his experiences. He spoke about how aging often brings physical and mental challenges, but reminded us that we must always treat the elderly with respect and dignity.The interview also touched on how healthcare systems can better support the aging population by recognizing their unique needs and providing programs that nurture independence and self-worth. About Dr. Marc SapirDr. Marc Sapir is a retired primary care, geriatric, and public health physician. He is also an essayist, playwright, fiction writer, poet, musician, and political activist. Dr. Sapir was the first Medical Director of the Center for Elders’ Independence, serving disabled elders for nine years. He also previously worked with the United Farm Workers and was a panel member of the Mad as Hell Doctors for Single Payer Health Care.A graduate of Brandeis University and Stanford Medical School, Dr. Sapir also holds a Master’s Degree in Public Health Epidemiology from the University of California, Berkeley.Betsy’s RecommendationBetsy Wurzel highly recommends I’ll Fly Away: Stories of Disabled Elders. She believes it should be read by everyone, especially those working with disabled and elderly populations, as it provides invaluable insight into respect, care, and dignity.Visit Dr. Sapir’s website: http://marcsapir.netExplore the National PACE Association programs: https://www.npaonline.org/Email Dr. Sapir: [email protected] the book on Bookshop.org: Buy Here👉 “Listen to the full interview with Betsy Wurzel and Dr. Marc Sapir, then share it with those who care about dignity and freedom in aging. For further insight, pick up a copy of I’ll Fly Away and explore resources from the National PACE Association.”Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/chatting-with-betsy--4211847/support.💡 At Passionate World Talk Radio, we believe real conversations matter. Stay inspired and keep listening to Chatting with Betsy at www.passionateworldtalkradio.com.

Betsy Wurzel’s guest today is Dr. Marc Sapir, author of I’ll Fly Away: Stories of Disabled Elders. In this inspiring interview, Dr. Sapir shares why he gave his book the title I’ll Fly Away, drawn from the 1929 song about freedom. He explains how the theme of freedom connects deeply with the lives of elderly and disabled individuals—social beings who deserve respect, autonomy, and dignity.During their conversation, Betsy and Dr. Sapir explored the PACE model program for elderly and disabled individuals, which recognizes them as cultural beings who should be supported in living meaningful lives. They discussed how music plays a vital role in bringing joy, connection, and healing, and why being socially active is essential for well-being.Another important topic they covered was end-of-life care. Dr. Sapir stressed how crucial it is to make your wishes known through a medical directive, ensuring that family or friends honor those decisions—even if they might disagree. He emphasized that, for many people, quality of life matters more than quantity.Dr. Sapir also shared stories of individuals featured in I’ll Fly Away: Stories of Disabled Elders, reflecting on the lessons he has learned from his experiences. He spoke about how aging often brings physical and mental challenges, but reminded us that we must always treat the elderly with respect and dignity.The interview also touched on how healthcare systems can better support the aging population by recognizing their unique needs and providing programs that nurture independence and self-worth. About Dr. Marc SapirDr. Marc Sapir is a retired primary care, geriatric, and public health physician. He is also an essayist, playwright, fiction writer, poet, musician, and political activist. Dr. Sapir was the first Medical Director of the Center for Elders’ Independence, serving disabled elders for nine years. He also previously worked with the United Farm Workers and was a panel member of the Mad as Hell Doctors for Single Payer Health Care.A graduate of Brandeis University and Stanford Medical School, Dr. Sapir also holds a Master’s Degree in Public Health Epidemiology from the University of California, Berkeley.Betsy’s RecommendationBetsy Wurzel highly recommends I’ll Fly Away: Stories of Disabled Elders. She believes it should be read by everyone, especially those working with disabled and elderly populations, as it provides invaluable insight into respect, care, and dignity.Visit Dr. Sapir’s website: http://marcsapir.netExplore the National PACE Association programs: https://www.npaonline.org/Email Dr. Sapir: [email protected] the book on Bookshop.org: Buy Here👉 “Listen to the full interview with Betsy Wurzel and Dr. Marc Sapir, then share it with those who care about dignity and freedom in aging. For further insight, pick up a copy of I’ll Fly Away and explore resources from the National PACE Association.”Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/chatting-with-betsy--4211847/support.💡 At Passionate World Talk Radio, we believe real conversations matter. Stay inspired and keep listening to Chatting with Betsy at www.passionateworldtalkradio.com.

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Betsy Wurzel’s guest today is Dr. Marc Sapir, author of I’ll Fly Away: Stories of Disabled Elders. In this inspiring interview, Dr. Sapir shares why he gave his book the title I’ll Fly Away, drawn from the 1929 song about freedom. He explains how...

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