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Content creators. All about creating content. A blizzard of content for over 30 years. A blizzard.

A conversation. That was pretty accurate. A little bit of a bar. Disorienting, blinding.

Coming at you from all different directions. Possibly dangerous. No consistency whatsoever. Consistency.

It's slowing. It's snowing. It's leading. It's raining.

It's what is this? It's slowing you down. Slowing you down for over 30 years. Oh, hi blizzard.

I like that. I can call you my blizz. Blizz. Just call me blizz.

I'm like going through a blizzard of pollen. Yeah, you're having your allergies are acting up, aren't they? I'm always really manifest with very, very itchy eyes. So I feel like clawing my eyes out.

I hate that image. And when I was a kid, it made me so... Even conversation. Even conversation.

It's a little bit of Delvada. Just onto something. It's going to talk about my allergies as a kid. How interesting is that?

Fascinating. Bring it on. Mio. Would you like to come over for a meal?

Try a meal. In my place. Sure, Mio. Mio.

What's wrong with Mio? Oh, I'm holding. Well, you know, meals on wheels, that sounds good to me. I like meals on wheels.

Yeah. Everybody loves meals on wheels. Yeah. You know, it sounds good.

I think it sounds great. I like that meal. You're saying other sentences, other contexts? You don't like the word meal?

For some reason, in the last couple of weeks, I've noticed when I hear the word meal, I get like a little like, almost like a catch. Like in the back of my throat, like, I hate that word. And I never think that. Like, I know a lot of people have really strong opinions about certain words.

Oh, yeah. Like, moist. I like moist. Yeah.

You do like moist. Yeah. Okay. Um, anyway, so people have real opinions about certain words and things in general.

I like to think that I'm, I don't have as many, what they call pet peeves. Hang ups. I don't have as many hang ups as most people. And I kind of like, I do quietly pride myself in that.

Quietly. Quietly. Right here on the pod. Everyone here.

I really pat myself on the back. No self-congratulation. Touch my taint whenever I think of it. Of how just accepting I am.

You're so accepting. How hard it is to really annoy me with small things. You know, I'm the guy who walks into the airport. Mm-hmm.

Openhearted. Openhearted. And kind. I mean, usually you're walking with a sense of purpose.

I don't know if I'm with my family. Yeah, you move. No. You're like a little busybody.

A father with it. Excuse me. I'm moving, passing through. A father with a family going to the airport.

There's an agenda. And we're just trying to catch up with you. The cliche is true. The dad, I am, I am the, we go to the airport four hours early guy.

That's me. That's me. It's true. But when I'm on my own, just, you know, when I'm on my own.

I want a little camera on you. So I just watch you. I'm not like a live stream. I watch this.

See you in this easy going state. Anyway, so recently the word meal just started really bugging me. That is interesting. You don't, I don't know if I've ever heard you say this word bugs me.

Yeah, I haven't. This might even be the first time you've ever shared like that a word really bothers you or is working you. Yeah, I'm not familiar with that. That's new.

Look at you being all new. I don't know what that means. Does that mean I'm like, is this sort of aging? Is this the sign of aging?

It's not like cranky. It's getting like a bit. Okay, boomer. curmudgeon curmudgeonly.

Oh my gosh. So yeah. Is this just aging or I don't know. I see lots of young people complaining about things like that one of the things that always feel very insecure are people on Facebook when they say like a complain about a grammatical thing.

They're like, oh, I hate it when I see this. You know, it's really this duh or whatever. I can't stand with people right there instead of there or there, you know, whatever. Or they do a period and they still do two spaces after the period instead of just one.

And I'm always thinking, gosh, guys, I mean, I really, like, are you going to, are you okay? Like, is it really that big of a deal? You know, but then it's of course just totally hypocritical of me because I have all sorts of little things that I, you know, make me feel crazy too. Like in conversation.

I just, it's like a weird thing where I just started to feel like, when did this happen? Where we stopped saying like an interview with or whatever. It's never an interview anymore. It's so and so in conversation with.

I know why. Why? Like what happened? How did this happen?

Because the interviewers became just as famous as the people they were interviewing. Oh, okay. Do you know what I'm saying? Uh huh.

So it's more equal. So it's equal and they don't want to say interview because that means that sort of means that one person is more interesting than the other. Hmm. So in order to interview with someone, you have to have some lesser success.

What's the truth? You're the journalist or the interviewer. Okay. But now these days, I mean, because of stuff like podcasts and social media, it's not, I mean, people become celebrities because of their interviewing techniques or their ability to speak with people or the other conversation with people.

In conversation, the conversation is actually taken on sort of a new and deeper meaning more that goes beyond what interviews are. Maybe conversation with woman about. Maybe yeah, maybe what you're saying is in conversation also indicates that there's going to be a back and forth. Yeah.

Unless of like, I'm here stagnant, like I'm asking you these questions, then you give to me. In conversation during the meal. But I mean, I don't know. I just feel like it's being thrown around everywhere now.

Everyone's in conversation. Of course. Yeah. We're all in conversation.

But it sounds pretentious. That's just it. It just sounds in conversation. Yeah.

I mean, I think that's the thing is it's like, okay, yes, we're in conversation. Yeah. Indeed. Okay.

In conversation. I mean, it's a thing. Yeah. It's kind of like a new thing.

I love the New Yorker magazine. Yeah, of course. We're decent human beings who doesn't. Right.

I mean, you can. It's so great. Yeah. I mean, I'm a little bit loud, et cetera.

I used to read it covered covered, covered, covered kind of. Yeah, I did too, but a long time ago, honestly. A long time ago. But when the in conversation thing started to creep, that was like, I remember it first in the New Yorker magazine.

You know, there would be New Yorker events. I started to say different conversations. People, I would say when authors were advertising book tours, they would say so and so will be in conversation with and then they would cite another of like relatively famous person. You know, not always actually.

Now that I'm thinking about it. Hmm. No, but I don't know. So maybe it's just we've decided we don't like saying interview.

We just now it's your in conversation with someone. Right. That's a new way. And here's a new way of saying custom.

The word custom. Yeah, custom. I got a custom that I mean, you know, bespoke. Like people got sick of saying custom.

Yep. So they kind of adopted this old, somewhat old English. Yeah, sounds old-timey. It was a handlebar mustache.

Bespoke. He makes bespoke denim jeans. It first appeared in an English dictionary in 15, in the 1530s. So it's been around for a while.

So that makes sense to me. I was not, my ears were not wounded by that fucking word until recently. And I find that word, like for some reason like meal, I find bespoke. Like it is offensive to me.

I don't like how it hits. Oh, man. Yeah. I like how it hits.

It hits stuff right now. Not in a good way. Bespoke. Bespoke.

Bespoke. I know. Well, I always feel like I'm not sophisticated enough to ever use that word or to ever, you know, be in a place where there is something that's bespoke. It just sounds really expensive.

You know. I'm like, oh, damn. Someone's going to like measure my ass and make me custom jeans that I can't afford. You know, which would be cool.

I'd love to have some custom jeans, some bespoke custom. Wait, bespoke and custom. Is that now? What's that when you have the same word?

Yes. They're interchangeable. No, I mean, like, but then you say them one after the other. So then they cancel each other.

Oh, that's called like when you say, like if you say I had runny diarrhea. It's like you don't need to say you had runny diarrhea. It's diarrhea. If it's diarrhea, it'll be runny.

Yeah. I mean, unless you're really driving at home, I guess like hot runny. Is diarrhea ever not been hot? It doesn't come out cold.

I don't think, you know, only from a corpse. Damn. Gosh. Well, I was thinking about this and, you know, kind of like underused words and overused words.

And so we're talking about words today, right? And one of the words that I will totally admit is overused. And I'm sure a ton of people would say is like cringe, whatever, you know, like is bandwidth. But that's one that like for some reason, it really makes sense though.

I get it when someone's like, dude, I don't have the bandwidth for that. You know, I'm like, totally. I got it. Like, say no more.

You know, like that one for me. It's it just, yep, yep. No, got it. You know, I'm cool with that.

I'm cool with bandwidth. Let's roll with bandwidth forever now. I'm all right with bandwidth hanging out, right? One of them that also sort of about like I'm thinking of like 1980, you know, hooking up your cables, like those are bandwidth, whatever dialed in.

I don't love dialed in. Yeah. I want to let's get dialed in on this conversation. You know, dialed in is I kind of, that one's a little bit like spiky to me.

I feel yucky. I always put the dial in different places. That doesn't mean anything that I put the dial in. Have you ever said like I was really dial in man?

No, I haven't because I haven't taken to that one. Yeah. I haven't taken to that one because it makes me think of someone like me taking a dial between my thumb and my forefinger and moving it. And which is fine, but we don't really do that anymore.

Yeah. Well, that's what I mean. These words are sort of like analog bandwidth is digital. Yeah, right.

You know, I like to say that like I don't have the hard drive. I don't have my hard drive. But I wanted to use that, but I haven't used it. Like I don't have space in my hard drive.

My iPod is full. It's full. Is that the little thing that was that the iPod, the little one? What was the one that was the bigger one that was awesome?

I've had the music. iPod. But what was the little one then? The little iPod.

Oh, so it's just the mini version of it? The mini iPod. Yeah. Please comment on our Instagram with your bespoke topics.

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Can I tell you something that I think is sort of underused? Yes. Um, redundant, by the way. When you put two words- Thank you.

That's redundant. It's redundant. Yeah. Unnecessary.

The topic of discussion today is CAVS. How are your CAVS? Mine? Strong?

Yours? Señui? You're getting there. Picking.

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Picking. So underused, let me tell you- Continue where you were before you were so rudely into the thing. Someone does something stupid or they're just like an asshole. I'm really into ding dong.

We don't say that. I'm not a fucking ding dong. Yeah, that's a good one. Ding dong or ding bat.

I also like ding bat. So that to me is like a- I like those. I enjoy them and I don't give enough. Is one masculine and the other feminine?

Ding dong. Ding dong. Ding bat. I was spooked.

I wonder what I only call a man a ding dong. I was spooked. Okay. Yeah.

Would you call a woman a ding dong? I call her a ding bat. Mmm. Does that also mean like she's batty?

Like bat shit crazy? I know. I think of like a 1950s or 60s TV show. And like a woman with like a wig or a perm that's kind of a little pay wire.

A little ding bat? She's a real ding bat. Ding dong. He's a ding dong.

Yeah, that seems like a he's she. Ding bat. What a fucking ding dong. Yeah.

So yeah, that's a- I love a good ding dong and ding bat. But um, yeah, I don't like calves. The word? You don't like thinking about them.

You don't like the word because the word makes you think about them. Well, I don't actually have a problem with the word. I didn't have a problem with the word until you put it in a song. I don't like- Oh.

Yeah. Because you have ideas of what words should be used in a song. See, that's where my hypocrisy is just flying all around. Yeah.

This is interesting because yeah, you just don't like it in a song. I have a weird thing where if I hear a certain word in the song, I have a hard time moving past it or like accepting it into the song, if it just chafes me funny. I don't know. Like you have that song, Caves of Champions.

That's a line in a song. Oh, that's not what it's called. No, the song is called State of Mind. It should be called Caves of Champions.

Okay, right. That's right. I get confused because you say it a lot. I've said some people know that I've talked about this quite a bit, but- Yes.

I mean, we mentioned it in our live sub-sac. Oh, yes, that's right. And so I mean, I think it's just when I heard the song, I had a hard time getting over the fact that you were talking about someone's calves. It's not- It took you out of the song.

Yeah. It took you out of the flow of the song. I was just like, I don't, you lost me. I don't know.

Fair enough. And yeah, so I mean, can't win them all. That one's not for me. And I sometimes also have a hard time with names in a song.

You do. You don't like people's names in songs. You don't like a chorus that's somebody's name. Like, what's that one?

Just walk away, Renee. You know, like it's a beautiful song. But I'm- You're like, I don't want to- Like, who's Renee? I don't know.

I love this. I love it. The reason that it's because you are brought into the song and you're like, literally who's Renee? Yeah.

I'm like, what's the character? Like, can I see a picture? Yeah. Right.

What do you mean, Renee? I- And I absolutely hate the song Roxanne by the police. And I hate the way Sting sings it. It- Roxanne.

That to me, I'm like, you're dead to me. Sting. And I- Listen, I actually really like Sting. When I see interviews and things like that with him, I always really enjoy his personality.

You know, like who he seems to be- Do you find him attractive? Actually, as he's gotten older, I didn't really think younger Sting- Um, was that interesting to me? But he's aging nicely. I do think he's looking like a handsome older man.

And I like his speaking voice when I've heard him interviewed. I like the things he says. And so I have like, I don't hate him. Are you know what I mean?

But when I hear the police or that song, I- Yeah. It's really not okay for me. I don't like it at all. I can't get into it.

Can I tell a quick anecdote about the first time I heard Roxanne? Totally. It was on the radio. Of course, of course.

And the band was just breaking. And I thought the DJ said, here we go. It's the new hot song by the number one, Sat Band, the police. And then so I was like, weird.

Sat Band. And I thought that they were literally fat. Yeah. And it made sense to me because I thought that Sting-singing Roxanne, I thought he was literally a big person.

No one used the word fat. But back then, I mean, we're talking about the 80s. People threw the word fat around whether we're wrong. Oh, I think so.

So people who, also like there are people who reclaim that word and they say I'm fat and you know, you can go fight. I think we're fat. And because it- But here's the thing. So you were thinking it was almost like a physical.

Yeah, it was physical. And then I thought the reason it sounded like Backman Turner Overdrive, like taking care of business. Backman? Backman.

Holy cow. BTO. I thought that they, and for some reason, and I don't even know if this is true, I thought that the lead singer of Backman Turner Overdrive was also a partly individual. Interesting.

But I don't even know if that's true. I don't know if these ideas. Based on their body size. But based on the sound of their voice.

That's so fascinating. I think I've ever thought about somebody's body size. I finally saw the police. I'm like, oh my gosh, they're actually quite fit.

They're a very attractive band. I thought. Like attractive. They all were cute.

That's then saying the people who are fat are not attractive. I'm just saying that like, you know. That's not what I meant. I think you're meaning like conventionally whatever.

They were conventionally attractive. Right. Right. You were coping with the drummer.

And by fit, you mean like they're thinner, leaner, physically seed muscles. The guitar player and he's- Because they can also be fit and fat. Absolutely. Yep.

Like rerun on what's happening. Well, like just many people. Like yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. True. Like Jack Black, incredibly agile person.

Sure. So yeah. Yeah. That's really interesting.

Is it? I don't know. Kind of. I mean, yeah.

I don't know. I, um, that's so funny. Well, I mean, that's interesting because I've never really thought about that. But that was back when you didn't see bands.

You hear that they existed and you didn't really get like a picture. Like when you, like, Ario's Speedwagon. You had no idea that the lead singer looked like he does. Like he does.

Sure. Which is a real, he's a real, real beaky look about him. Yeah. And you know that from that beautiful, beautiful voice of his rolling with the changes.

Oh my gosh. Keeping on loving you and all that stuff. Oh. So that sounds quite romantic.

Totally. They're like legitimately romantic songs. Oh, that's so funny. Um, yeah.

I, uh, I don't even know what we're talking about anymore. Oh my gosh. You were talking. But yeah, I don't know if I, I don't know if I complained enough about bespoke.

Oh, do more. Do more. Somebody, I was first present. Say more.

That's a new one, right? Say more. Oh, I didn't. Okay.

And say more. I was present, someone presented me with an opportunity to become part of a project that they were doing with other artists where the artists were making music for people. Like make writing songs for people. The spoke songs.

And that's what he said. We're making bespoke material for it. I'm like, okay. Okay.

But you said original, right? You could be just original songs for people. Yeah. Custom songs.

I can't for listening. Not bespoke. I said bespoke. Oh.

I feel like that's a red flag. I feel like you might want to run from that one, that project. Did you run from it or did you go? I did.

I did run from it. Like someone paying me to write one song for them. I just couldn't do it. Yeah.

It just seemed, I want my music to be for everybody. You know? And it's like this podcast, it's like it's actually free. It's actually free.

It's free. This podcast is free, isn't it? I, for people. I mean.

I got to listen to some commercials. Yeah. Or they could get a commercial free. Right.

But then they'd have to pay, they'd have to join our sub-stack. Oh, everything's free. Yeah. Oh my gosh.

You want to find the right way, but yeah bespoke. I don't like that one either. I bespoke. I never use it unless someone is like putting me in a torture chamber and they say it.

I'll poke. They poke me to bespoke me. They're like, hair, poker. Just like a devil's poker.

You know? I'm like bespoke. Ow, bespoke. Yeah.

Custom. Custom. Or custom original. Like my lyrics that I write out for people.

Custom. Yeah, you don't say bespoke. Do you know? I'm almost the idea that I would even think about using like, oh, I have some bespoke lyrics available on the Barlow Family General.

How about the movie? Yeah. It's just not here. It's not here.

It's not who I am. But it's making me think of one other thing. It's not bespoke and, oh, couture. I think that when I think of bespoke, I guess I prefer couture.

But I don't think people even know what that means, but that's like made by hand. You know? For one person. Yeah.

It's not going to be mass produced. It's usually also made to measure. Is it made to an individual's specific individual? Well, not always.

And it's not bespoke. Okay. So bespoke is the difference. So bespoke means it's for the individual person.

Yes. Okay. And couture is made by hand, not necessarily bespoke. No, it's like it can be.

It can be. It can be. I don't, they're not the same. Right.

Okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, and I would also like to say one of the things that drives me nuts is seeing the word crochet used in a description when it is not crochet. That damn, that really bugs me.

It's like a knitted piece and they'll go with crochet, trim. And I'm like, honey, there's nothing crocheted on that piece. Nothing. So, I can't imagine, like, if I'll see something in a comment, someone.

Because there's always some other, you know, crochet or other twigs. I do both. So I understand what they both are. And it's like, can't you just figure it out?

Like, do you not understand that that's an inaccurate statement? That's like calling your shirt that you're wearing a T-shirt. That would be like calling that shirt a woven, a teal blue woven fabric. That's not woven.

That is actually knitted fabric. Oh, my gosh. It's the struggle is real. Does that drive someone crazy?

That one? The struggle is real. And all the feels. Those are some other ones.

I don't know if those are still around anymore. I usually catch on five to ten years after something. So yeah, let's hop off. We're hitting 29 minutes.

I'm going to hop off this conference call and dial myself in to in conversation with my bespoke manager. And I'm going to have a meal later. A moist meal with Renee and her calves. That dingbat Renee.

Let's dial in Renee to be in conversation with us. Yeah. What do you think, Daddy? I was trying to figure out a way to cleverly link all of those things and I was realizing that I can't do that.

I can't do that. I can't do that. I have a bandwidth for that right now. There you go.

You just said, I'm going to circle back to that. Circling back to bandwidth. You know, I don't have the bandwidth for a lot of shit these days. Mm hmm.

Okay. So sign her up on that note. On that note. Right.

So long dingdongs and dingbats. So long dingdong. Like that. So long dingdong.

So long dingdong. Oh my gosh. Well, I ended by just saying this last night I was at an event and a woman came up to me and said that she liked the podcast. And if you know who you are, thank you woman.

You work at UMass and you came up to me at the Drake. And so thank you very much for listening. Thank you, woman. What about the word woman and something?

Woman. Hot. You like it? Yeah.

100%. Hellene. No bill woman soon. I'm there for woman.

Woman. Yeah, it's your woman. Woman's hot. Since he got out, bad news keep happening.

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