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Nov 10, 2025 1 hr 2 min

In Conversation: JULIAN EHRLICH + MAX KAKACEK

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Ian raps with Julian Ehrlich and Max Kakacek of Whitney about living together as bandmates and working together as roommates, recording and producing themselves, dual breakups, The Band, "Acadian Driftwood," favorite Bob records, the Chicago scene, the depressing state of the Bears and the Bulls, basketball fandom in indie rock, "marinating" before tour, the ubiquity of pedal steel, and their lovely new record Small Talk. "SMALL TALK" OUT NOW FOLLOW WHITNEY ON INSTAGRAM

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