In conversation with Caroline Lucas

In this episode, Patrick speaks to Green Party politician Caroline Lucas. Caroline has twice led the party and has been the Member of Parliament for Brighton Pavilion since the 2010 general election. The coronavirus has exposed the "intense fragility of our current food system" says Caroline. Reflecting on the impact that the coronavirus is having across the UK, Patrick and Caroline discuss the UK Government's response to the pandemic, and consider how to help ensure that people can get access to healthy and sustainable food during times of crisis. Caroline and Patrick also discuss the Agriculture Bill and food security, the importance of local food systems and a green framework for the future.