Incorrupttibles

In the dead of night, as people sleep, that is when the spirits creep. As the bell tolls three, dark things take power. We like to call it the supernatural hour. Hey, welcome to the Supernatural Hour.

I am your co-host Chad. And that's all. Now, you're listening to the last thing about the subject I would think of you guys, or the same husband. No, it's just that kind of year.

And stuff. And we were actually, whole transparency here, ready. We usually try to have a canned episode, you know, one where we just record the main topic and then we can stuff easily to it later. You know, editing process for a time when everyone's sick or stuff happens.

And it's kind of nice to have one right around to this Christmassy time because it's just hard to get together with parties and shopping and everything that's going on. So when we were scheduling the trick work, this podcast we realized, it is just a few days before Christmas, and I wanted to do it. So you just got us, sorry. We'll try to be entertained with the girls.

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If not, it should be up to just, there are two, not going to talk about this. Yeah, it should be an exciting event when we haven't been to for quite a while. Yes, no, one time since then. Alright.

So that's it. We're pretty much for the business. Business Ross to you by Castle DotAar and Castle Nature Studio. We didn't go on a residential yesterday.

I was on a residential yesterday and it's... You didn't go alone. You didn't go with me, but you didn't go alone. No, I didn't go on a commercial.

Right. Well, that's not safe. Especially the area who we're in. And that's not from the paranormal.

That's not being safe. No, the people that we did the investigation are bad. It's called the Good People. Just the area that they were in is a little bicycle.

Just out of that way. The home where we were talking to is oh yeah, there was a kidnapping over there and some homicides over there. And I was like, we're going to make it to the car safely. Good people though.

He and his wife are both quite sensitive and they were just feeling things, hearing things, seeing things. It's a little side note. So the people on this investigation were Denise, Mary, Denise's mother, and myself. And Denise, just a little side, is my nail tech.

She does my nails. And my nails are fabulous. Let me just tell you it's not because of anything I do. It's because Denise is a fabulous nail tech.

She does her mother's nails. She does Mary's nails. So at one point we were all standing in this bedroom talking to a spirit. You know, through the flashlight.

The K2's the spirit really liked those. And Laura had a recorder, she was videotaping. Mary was holding a recorder. All of us for some reason had her hands up.

I was like, it's just the four of us had our own. That ghost hunting team would be called the Fantastic Fingernail 4. Because Denise also has her own nails. We all had on point Fingernail's.

And you did? We did. Okay, sorry. Back to the investigation.

We haven't had a chance to listen to the recording yet. So I don't know if we've had any. Yeah, it was just literally yesterday afternoon. And then we went to a family Christmas party right after.

In fact, you were late. Yes, I was late to the party because of the ghost hunting. That's okay. So one of the things that I experienced when we first walked into the house, the atmosphere of the whole complex was just very heavy.

Because of some of the extracurricular activities that were on the table. The tenants there. But when we got into the apartment itself, there was a heaviness there. And I felt a woman, a female spirit come in like tug on my arm.

Like she was really excited that there's a lot of us to come back and see something. Turns out that she wanted to film the protector spirits. There were what we call two type threes there. And those are what we call an R team, demonic entities.

And there were two type twos, which are human spirits, but are either jerks and like to cause mischief or they're being manipulated by the type three. There was two of those there. We walked into the home. I could feel this female spirit tugging on my arm.

We want to be back and find these other spirits that were there. And as soon as we talked to the homo, homo was there to actually someone within the group, we know, instead of getting this. So as a team, you know, it's like, okay, what are we doing? We do a particular one.

Yeah, we kind of set up our parameters. And then we started walking back from the front room into the kitchen. And since we get that kitchen, I got a headache. And if there's a type three, I can feel it in two different ways.

I'm going to either get a headache or, you know, when you've got magnets together the wrong way and they kind of retell. I will get through that. I'll get one of the two. I don't know if I can count them both.

I don't know what the difference is with that. I got a headache. It was a headache when I was like, oh, there's a there's gotta get type three right here. I didn't investigate that at that point because we felt compelled to go through the bedroom.

So we went into the bedroom and we were giving some responses and this is what we're trying to flashlight. And remember, if you listen to us, you've heard me reference, I flashed like the timer too. And I flashed like, I've got the two knives like that. I've got one with the green ones.

The green ones really leave. But for some reason the red one is harder to see. And I don't know what to do with that. So I had them turned on or you know, just barely, barely on.

I was carrying them and the red one came on. And hardly thought, oh, it just came on because it's just barely, barely turned on. But it was not a nice thing. Can you turn that off?

Let me turn off. And then when we went back into the bedroom, I realized that it was actually the red light that came off. I don't think I saw the green light come off. That's kind of different with your flashlights.

Right. It is. And before then, the only time I've had anyone try to do that, I've had a very long time. The female spirit, the beauty, daughters of you, took five years from the city.

In American work. And before, I mean, that's, I rarely wear them to get that red light turned off. So it came off several times after I had put it down. And intelligent.

You know, you turn that off, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then it was kind of good. But we had two K2 meters and both K2 meters would take the exact same time. Time when the light went on.

And there weren't any, you know, I let there was no phones around them. That was not how I get women's out there. So after, you know, we were asking questions and thinking, thinking some recordings to help you get some UDPs on, I said to the other three ladies, I said, I'm going to go out. Right there where it says that type three is because we got confirmation that it was where I thought it was.

Because I'm going to go see if I can get some pictures. Or something with the camera. So I went out and I was taking pictures and you've heard me talking about it several times. I'm on the podcast.

I don't believe in org in a photo unless I see it with my, maybe I. Just because it can be so many different things. Yeah. It can be dust.

It can be in sex. It can be, yeah. And so unless I see it, you know, I have no idea what that will be. So I'll, yeah, you show me an org picture of it.

Yeah, that can be other. Yeah. And we're not saying it's not. We just don't know that it is.

Cause it's hard to know with the photographic. There's just too many variables that can negate it unless you've been there and see it. So I'm sitting there and taking pictures. And I don't like to take, I do take bursts, but sometimes all this, you know, man, no.

And so I decided to just do manual. And so I was just taking magnificatures. And with my eye, I saw an orb go straight up right from where we were told that this type three was, it went straight up. And that's just going to go to the diagonal.

Meander a little bit. It's going to flow up and let's know. Except for in reverse. Going up.

It's going up. But you know how snow falls? It's going to move meanders. This shot straight up.

And it was that you couldn't have made a more straight line as you were trying to. Straight up and it was fast. And it was the perfect circle of it. It was right.

Shot straight up. And I said, because they were asking questions behind me. And I said, will you ask and see if that type three spirit just went up into the apartment of us? And they're asking who?

They were talking to one of the type two. And the answer was yes. They got annoyed. And it went upstairs into the apartment.

And I said, I saw it. And I thought, we used that in the picture. And I was looking through my photos. There's nothing there.

But I saw it with my eye. And that's good. So we salted and staged the type three out. The type two is one to cross.

And we cross spirits. We don't have mentioned this before. So it'll podcast. It'll go up section again.

You don't feel like we have the power to cross spirits. We feel that spirits have that power themselves. They just tend to get hyper focused on other things. And to the point that they haven't realized what time period they've been in, sometimes.

And so when we cross them over, what we do, our method, is to just help them to focus on that light, and to cross themselves. So we don't feel like we are crossing them. We're just helping them. So when you say we cross them when it's not that we did, they're using their agency and they're crossing themselves.

Yes, we're just helping them to focus. We're opening the door. We're helping them. It's like, hey, hey, hey, look up here, here, here, here, here.

I mean, I can't see it. But there's a really bright light. Can't see it. Can't see it.

We're all going to help you. Look for that. Yeah. And then they do it because we can't force them.

It's their choice. And we don't have some magic on our own. We go through your trust. We help them focus their energy so that they can cross themselves.

So we can assist them in crossing. It was good in this case. I actually had a book out about five minutes, and I'm still late. Well, it wasn't just because of the investigation.

There was also. No. OK. No.

OK. So not currently. But I'm sure that everybody can relate to this. You're driving down a freeway.

There's these signs that say left lane's closed. You're like, OK, left lane's closed. It's a weekend. It's a holiday weekend.

I can see that there's traffic built up. The bell merge in a mile or so from the closed off lanes and boom, we'll be going in. So if you're familiar with Utah, start the study on 23 and South. And it didn't open up again until I got to the bottom of the point of that, which is what?

Never Thanksgiving point. I know that's a couple miles. Oh, no, that's a couple miles. It's just three miles.

And I said, that's all they can. I decided. The point not. OK.

But it's a couple miles. So I'm driving through there and go my son called me one time. He was like, well, I'm on a freeway way. Literally zero miles.

I think the highest I got to was 17 miles an hour. On a freeway that's 70. On a Saturday with no weather related conditions. No, but they said, perfectly blue skies.

So four days, but there was the dry roads in the sky. It finally opened up and I was like, what? The actual hell. There was no things closed off.

There was no accident. There were no troopers. There was there was. There was no reason for a slowdown.

There was no free. Why do you do that? Stop it. Wherever does that.

Stop doing that. I don't want to see. OK. Back to our.

Back to paranormal stuff. I'm a very bitter mouthy. Raven's Rant was brought to you by. We don't have our bullet points.

So we're really doing this. So I've got last. I've got last. I've got last week's bullet points.

We were working on the last week's bullet points. So we get a response. Well, it gives us our general flow. I can't do that because I can't make up for our hat hazard.

We're doing it because we have a really cool time today. So we're really different from the topic. Yeah, I think so. Hey, if you have listened to us for a while, you know, that I have is more of a fascination with us.

And I mean, zero disrespect. To me, the reason these are fascinating is because you look at a mummy and you say that you know, 2004,000, however old that money is 200. That is a person. You know, they were born.

They grew up. They cried. They laughed. They were happy.

They were sad. They had plans. They had hopes and dreams. You know, they walked around in this period of time and saw these incredible things.

And now I'm looking at that. At their first? At their mortal remains. Not a statue of them.

I'm looking at them. And to me, I don't know. There's just something very severe about that. And I take it seriously and I'm respectful.

So please don't think about this. Disrespect. You want to take respect. Do not think that I am being disrespectful.

I'm not going to talk about this. I think it's fascinating. Then I put myself in that position. What if I were a mummy in 2000 years from now?

People are looking at me. I know she had dreams and hopes. And she ranted about traffic. It's not a word.

It's never looking at her. So one day a few days ago, Chad was looking through YouTube channels as he does. And he found one. I think the time of this particular wall is called incorruptible.

The bodies that wouldn't brought her. Don't brought it. And I think that's a word. I think that's a word.

I think that's a word. I think that's a word. I think that's a word. And so I watched it.

And she goes, wow, that's a really cool topic. And so as we were researching for today's podcast, we pulled up another one and it was the time of that one was just a list of Catholic saints that were incorruptible part one. I thought part one, how many of these people are out there? And I found out we found out something interesting and I did not know this.

Sorry, I'm supposed to take a picture. No. So I did not know this. But in order to be an if you're Catholic or know more about how this is, and we mess this up.

And I said, and if we mess this up. Yeah, I mess this up. Sorry. We just are taking our information from some videos.

We're giving it our best shot and we're not authorities here. No. As I understand it, in order to become a saint at one point, well, at one point they thought it was miraculous. Yeah, they had so many miracles.

They had so many miracles. So many things that happened. But one of these miracles was from the exhumia, which was part of the canonization process. If your body was incorrupt, it's an miracle.

Yeah, they made it a miracle. And so that would be one of the three. Yeah, you were a saint. You're a third of the way there.

Yeah, your body is not decomposed. You're obviously a saint. It's an miracle. Who's that in my mind?

Yep. And now because of science and business and other things, they don't consider it an miracle. They see it as a favorable sign. Right, because there are other bodies that are incorruptible, like the bog.

Bodies in the bog. And they preserve him, and then there's the little girl. Yeah, I mean, some of the girls up in the high-endies mountains that were used as sacrifices with the... So because of science, they kind of downgraded the incorruptibility being a sign of a miracle.

It's more like a kudos. Honorable mention. So, and here's the interesting thing. Participation trophy.

So, as they were looking through, we'll give you a list of a bunch of ones that flipped out. But incorruptible means that their body hasn't been artificially intended with. Yeah, artificially preserved. And they're still flexible and pliable.

Yes, and so some of them, as they were going through some of these, they were saying, I guess this isn't quite a vocal or this isn't. Did you say this? It doesn't mean that they're perfectly preserved. They don't need to be perfectly preserved.

I mean, you don't need to open it up, it looks like they did when they were 20. But they can't... some things that make them nose. Yeah.

You have to have all your organs there. Right, so... They can be decomposed. They just can't have been removed.

Right, so like mummies, Egyptian mummies, where they would take the organs out to help the body be preserved, by not having those organs in there and decompose and start that process. That would be a preserved body, but it would not be considered in a carportal company, because they would have a lot of different things. Right. So sometimes when they would exhumes, so as part of the canonization process, your body would be exhumed, an exam.

And a lot of times these examinations weren't conducted before they were buried, because they were so conservative, a modesty that they just didn't do in real thorough investigation. You know, like they would know. But as they exhumed some of these people that they were considering the same hood, they would find that organs had been removed, they'd been stuffed with herbs, things had been done to their skin. What was it, a certain kind of acid that they would be putting on it to help preserve that?

And so they were like, no, that can't be uncreptal. Which didn't mean they couldn't be a saint. It just meant that the miracle of incorruptibility wouldn't be counted as one of the three miracles. Right.

I had a... I was like, oh, you know, I'm going to find three other miracles, because this is not one of the miracles. So there was one where they talked about Saint Paula. They got her up and they had to take some interest, but it's fine.

I'm ducker up. I'm something wrong with this. Okay. I didn't know that.

When Saint Paula, hang on, hang on, any glasses? My mom said my eyesight would start going on, I was like 40. And I didn't make glasses until I was like 48, but that was a change. Okay.

And I'm just going to put this out here, man. A lot of these saints are Italian, French, and I'm not going to pronounce them correctly. I'm just going to be honest. I can hardly pronounce normal English words correctly.

So I apologize. I will do my very, very best. You wrote this respect when I pronounced this in correctly. So there's a gal named Saint Paula, Rancinetti, and they exhumed her 24 years after she did acid.

And she looked fantastic. And the nuns looked at her and they thought she looked really, really good, considering how long she did. And they put a carbolic acid on her skin to preserve it. But since they preserved her skin after she was exhumed and examined, they still considered her incorrect.

Right. So along these same lines, there was a Saint, Saint Julian, Emard, and they exhumed him, and they also thought they'd do it pretty good. And so they tried to do the same preservation that they did Saint Paula, but it destroyed. I don't know if they used it too strong or if his disability composition just couldn't handle it, but it, you know, they preserved him and they put this acid on him and they thought, oh, that's what they took.

And so they took what was left and put it in a wax-wing-rape edgy. Because as we were looking at somebody, the first thing we did was just look at these, you know, incorpital. Yeah, there was a video that didn't even have any dialogue with it. It was just the names and the dates and the pictures of them.

Raven and I were going through, well, yeah, that's possible. Now that one looks pretty waxy. Well, that one looks like a mannequin. Oh, that one.

Oh, that one looks like a queen. You know, and then we did some more research on that. And if you go and some of them look like the wax-epigine, you're like, eh, sometimes it's the body inside, and the body would be inside of it where there was one where you look at it and it looks completely waxy. It looks like you was fell asleep.

And I know that's too good for you, but actually underneath the wax-epigine is a different result. Right. And in fact, there's an episode of Ask Mortician. What's her favorite building?

I forget her first name. But anyway, Kate and Cody. Anyway, she's talking to an expert that does this. And there's a picture of her with, I believe, was this one you're talking about, is that, you know, kind of the wax-epigine on the guy on the side.

The question to Catherine is this incorpible or not? And, you know, it was obviously, you know, a wax-mannequin kind of thing. And she said, no, and the girl says, no, it is. And then they actually have a picture of where they dropped it down and you can see the body underneath and it's mostly skillet.

But at the time that the finding and the exclamation, it wasn't incorruptible. And since then it's deteriorated to the point. Right. And the ex-wristan friend was Elizabeth Harper.

And the one that they were talking about is the St. Canilla St. Canilla. But it was very interesting, you know, because I didn't know that with the incorpibles.

We first started looking at this, is that sometimes they're effigies and it's, it doesn't mean that that body is still in the same preservation as when they were deemed to be incorpible. Right. And when it comes to, you know, you might be asking, well, you know, what is the exact definition of incorpible? We kind of touched on this a little bit.

There's not really a definition and there's not even a belief in this. So, Ellen was asking, oh, she's like, what is the definition? And as there are lives, and Elizabeth says, no, there's not a list. There's not really a definition.

What they consider to be incorrupt actually came from a coke. And I wrote down coke, the same benefit. Is that a little thing or is it just a coke? I wrote down the word same about 800 times.

I wrote down the difference. Hope in the technical belief. If you're Catholic, I'm really sorry. I'm trying to.

And you have the date on that? So in 1734, he used the word flexible. And I think since then they added that you don't know preservatives at all. The herbs, packed in the old quarter of your mood.

However, that means said, you don't even need to be fully there. Just one part of you has to be tackled. For example, say Anthony of Petchoo, Petchoo, Petchoo. When they exhumed him, all of his body had decomposed naturally, but his time was intact.

And flexible. And flexible. So they considered that, the miracle. They considered that, incorrupt.

And so when you go and visit St. Anthony of Petchoo, you can see this tongue, preserved in the glass, topped. And when you say preserved, just displayed. They haven't preserved it.

They just displayed it. They took this tongue. It's like zip tied to the back of a glass picture. It's not kind of a relic we owe.

Yeah. Just a tongue. Like in my notes, I wrote to a few. But that's interesting that that was the only body part that didn't decompose where almost everything else did.

It was a case within a skull and maybe this was your, I don't know. But why wouldn't that be true of lots and lots of other? Yeah. It's a miracle.

No disrespect. Zero disrespect. Just going on saying, what does something go? So, I'm just going to, where does it go to this list?

No comment on this list. No, you got a list. It's not a formal list. You don't have bullet points via it.

You didn't print it up and give it to everybody. I'm getting half of it. There's nothing wrong with lists. I like it.

Number of lists are ordered lists. They are sequences important. This is coming from me as a technical writer. Bullet lists mean that all of the items in the list don't have a prescribed order and don't have to be done in any particular order.

So, it could be there. So, if you were giving a, you could give a number of lists by year of, you know, sequence of when things have happened and then you could put those in a number and you'd probably even use the year as the number, you know, in 1847 and 1849 and put them in a number. That would be a number. So, bullet lists would be just, you put the information out there.

That's not a good word. Not that the information is not important to sequence. This segment brought to you by Technical Writing Corporation. My brain is a much better question.

So, she doesn't have a bullet list or a number list. She just has a random list here. Because, okay, if you guys are, know at all what my choice is. Chad is an ESTJ.

I am an INFJ. When it comes to logic, we are on completely opposite ends of the spectrum. Chad's brain is full of all sorts of lists. Then mine is just a jumble of unicorn dust and berries.

But you're the one that makes the list. So, anyway, back to your list. Here's your list. Okay, so here we go.

There is St. Padre P.O. There is St. Padre Dio de Patrisina.

Again, I'm sorry if I missed it. He was born in 1887, died in 1986. He actually looks good. Now, whether these are the actual bodies or the incribable body inside the F.G.

or the V.P.F.G. I don't know. So, you can look these up yourself and make that decision on your own. If you do know, you can send us an email, let us know.

We can chat about it. There is St. Camilla's Delayus and he was born in 1550 and died in 1614. That's pretty good.

I think that was the legit one. There is the venerable Maria de Jesus Agunda and she was 1602 to 1665. She looked good but a bit waxy. And so, my gut feel is they have preserved her after.

She was incredible or maybe she is a case man or underneath her image. She looked good. There is St. Bernadette, and I can probably pronounce this right if I can read anything.

It was in various of Lords. She was 1844 to 1879 and she looked good. I think that was the actual one. It looked too waxy.

It didn't look like she looked good. Also, it's not very old. I mentioned why she was 1860. Yeah, it's not like hundreds and hundreds of years old, but that's, you know, a hundred years is a long time for body to not decompose.

So there was St. Alphanzios in Paprockari from 1696 to 1787. He looked very waxy kind of bronze kind of orange. Now, these are all obviously glass topped or open, you know, cases, boxes, so you can see them.

And the fabric behind him was orange, the lighting was kind of orange. So I don't know what... He had kind of a bronzy, goldish hue. I don't know if it was the light, I don't know if it was something that they could start to be an after-the-fact.

And some of these, because when we were watching the Asympto Mortician, they would show us two bodies, the expert would say one was an incredible one wasn't. So I'm not saying that these are all incredible, since it was all ones they show as one of these. So if you're interested, you can let me set it off. St.

Vincent de Paul's, 1581 to 1660, he looked really good like he was sleepy. It looked really good. Like he was sleeping, so I'm gonna guess that the actual, incredible him was encased more. And people just thought that.

That's enough that he represented him probably. Now again, too good. Yes. St.

Cecilia, the patron of musicians, and the musicians, so she resonates with me. Resonates, ha ha ha ha. Musician resonates, come on. I think that was a snapshot, a rest culture, because it looked very, very statue-y.

Yeah, again, not to say that there's not her body there at the site, but the effigy there was probably not her incredible body being slayed. Right. So I wrote this site down watching one video, and then we watched the Asympto Mortician, who kind of talked about this topic. They referenced her again, and towards the end of the Asympto Mortician episode, they did this lightning round.

Is it incredible or not? So this is St. Catherine of Boulona, and she's sitting, and she, to me, I was like, oh yeah, that's totally her. And it wasn't it was there.

I mean, it wasn't, you know, I have a G. She wasn't in case somewhere else. She had kind of your typical mom look, you know, just dark, kind of withered. But amazingly preferred for a couple of hundred years old.

Yes, I don't have, they didn't give her dates of when she was around, but you know, definitely, you're like, yeah, that's definitely her body. But they did say, because they would show two side-by-side ones incredible ones. They did say that she was not incredible. So she's still the same.

She just had to have other miracles, so something, something with her mind. It wasn't there like three or four of the St. Swimming that they had determined that there had been a lot of preserve that was done with them after, well, yeah. I mean, but before they were deemed as incorruptible, like at their burial, either organs removed or something that negated them from the miracle of incorruptibility.

And she was one. And it doesn't mean that they still weren't well, well-preserved, but they didn't mean the criteria of being incorruptible. The only thing I didn't like about was asking why she was when they were comparing the two they get to the line. It's like, why is that one incorruptible enough?

And it would have been something that maybe chin organ or your herb structure or preservation or just getting before burial. After burial, it's fine, but the border. After the miracle has been. And after the after they've been canonized for that miracle.

There's Santa Maria Maguendal-Hazu. I'm so sorry. 1566 to 1607. She also looked, you could tell that was actually the light.

They didn't come to that round, mummy, mummified book. You know, we see Egyptian. So, you know, the bog, mummies, or the ends preserved. I think they're standing this country.

They're standing this country. They're standing this country. That's how she went. They're St.

Waldo Rubio from 1084 to 1160. They have him on kind of high-pot of pedestal. Like really high on probably 1520. He had a really good look up.

In a glass case. And he looked pretty legit. He looked pretty almost skeletal. And when I say legit and skeletal again, this is just a good deal.

Our take on the state of the preservation of his body. That's what that is. But it's like, that's legitimate. That's him.

Yeah, and again, they then showed another close up of him. That was easier because from the 10 or 15 feet up, it was difficult to tell. You can tell there was a figure form there, but you can see it from the show to a close up of him. Yeah, so we're just gonna name off about six or seven more.

The Saint Claire of Assisi, 1194 and 1253. That's kind of a waxy look to me. They're saying, as Marilda, Ustasia, Calcifalo from 1434 to 1485. I think that would look like her.

I mean, it would look like legit. And again, we don't know if these are incredibly boring. I'm not. You can't look at those up.

Claire of Monta Falco, 1268 to 1308. She was in her habit. Then she looked pretty legit. She looked too much like that.

I mean, there's none of them. Except the Thomas. I was a little bit. The ones that sent me look like legit ones.

I thought they all look good with it. I thought that one happened dead for several years. I thought that it was. Some of them, I'm like, I wish I looked back.

Right now. The Saint Dominic. I cannot read my handwriting. I'm not going to say that.

Oh, sorry. I'm like, sorry. 1842 to 1857. This one, I didn't care for how they posted this one.

This is the one he could have been well-preserved. It could be like a mannequin or a effigy of some sort. But they had him sitting, but it's like they had a cool understanding to come out. He was in the process of sitting up and his arms were up.

And you can tell if his eyes were open or closed. I just didn't like the reason. Yeah, to me, this one is the one where he was very manicured. Yeah, and whether it was actually him or not, I don't know.

But if he'd just been laying down, I might have said, oh, yeah, that could just be a very well-preserved. I mean, yeah, that one's 100 years or so. But, I don't know, 1857. 200, 175.

I just didn't like how they pushed it up. If it was legitimately handled with a trick. John Bonet, the ancient of priests, 1786, 1859. He looked pretty legit, pretty like like his head and his hands seemed very well-preserved.

His body seemed a little more, a little more, shriveled to things. Dehydrated. Dehydrated. Yeah, but I know he's a bit for a lot.

So that's what I'm gonna say, some hands up here. So this is the one, again, we watched this video before we heard all of the, you know, the definitions and everything. So this is St. Harsis from 3rd Century y'all.

And the notes I put were possible, look, statuary, for the age not sure if it's real, too good, but now, yeah, having watched. That was the part where? And the definition of what the incredible means, in the Catholic Church context. Exactly.

Then I realized, oh, that's probably the effigy of him. And whatever part or parts of him will determine what the chapter were, or not, are encased inside there. So that after I watched her. After we got a little more information, we learned a little more about the definitions.

Some of them going from 370 Rome. No, that's too good. But now I get it, now I get it. So see, do your research.

Do your research. St. Charles of Sessy, he looks pretty good. He was well-preserved.

He looked like it was legit, not like he was encased in that 1613, 16c. And then not all, and I'm gonna say in practical, it's just me and the other boxers, not the Catholic version of incredible. But you know, I can't touch them up. There's Lenin, you know, the bog bodies, Egyptian mummies.

I see the, there's a lot of people. There's, I mean, there's mummies that are finding all of them. Which is not a state. Oh, besides the bodies, you look at these bodies.

Now these mummies are these people that lived, you know, thousands of years ago in the case of Egyptian mummies. Or, you know, there's hundreds of years ago in the case of some of these saints. And you think, you know, is there spirit hanging around? You know, is there's some sort of criminal activity going on around these?

And I had a personal experience and we briefly touched on this if you listen to a new jutemsa. But we run Egypt and me. I took, I took my, it goes me to grow and I took thousands. The thing that I was the most excited to go to, while I was there.

And we, we go to the very first time it was not a ghost temperature. But I really, really wanted to go to the museum in Cairo. Ghost hunts with the dowsing rods, the mummies. I was so excited to do that.

But as soon as I got to where the mummies were going, I just had this overwhelming feeling of, don't know, we have millions of people that's considered. Literally millions of people. There was probably millions of people. Well, not quite when we were there.

But over the course of the years, it's millions. I mean, King Tut's tom's there. Not too, but his artifacts and remains. Might have said his overwhelming feeling of, you know, you know, this don't.

That's what I said. And I put the other nodes in my hand. And I just stood there and stared at them. You watched and read.

And Chaz went on with the other things. And I just, I was like, yeah, I'm seeing most. But we did look up, you know, are there any, you know, terrible things that go on in their own? The Incraptables.

The Incraptables, you know, the Catholic Satan Incraptables. And there wasn't really a whole lot. But there were several pictures of forbs, strange nests, some shadows that couldn't be explained. There was one.

We couldn't quite tell because it didn't give us much information. It looked like someone was visiting with them when they got a light run on their arm. Which to me is credible because I'm sure that whether their spirit is within, or whether it just brings other spirits to the mimic them and try to tune in, there's going to be some sort of activity around. How much a lot of energy?

I mean, a lot of living human energy, a lot of interest, a lot of faith, soldiers. I mean, energy from the body itself and energy from those who come to pay their respects and then on the museum. So is that it for our Incraptables? Yes, no, no, I've seen Egyptian levels.

I still have to go back to Egypt to see the Royal Mimes because when we were there, if you don't know, there's the museum in Cairo. Which is called the Cairo Museum. You know, that you see it on the museum. But when they were there, they were just going to see it as great, making new museums that was just quite amazing.

Yeah, out on the Gaza Strip. And I think it's open then. Yeah. So I need to go back there.

But when we were at the Cairo Museum, they actually had the royal money exhibit closed within one process of even them from the one museum to the other. And I was very, very active. That's what I wanted to see. I was like, seriously, the day that I'm here, it's closed.

So I got to go back to see the islands. But now I kind of want to go see some of these Incraptables. Yeah. So, well, that's, I need to, I'm going to say that's like a European trip.

Italy, France. Okay, something. So let's touch just a little bit on the non-Catholic Incraptons. I need to let them in.

The girl. What was her name? I mean, there's a lot, there's a lot of people, the bog people that they find all of those kinds of things. And again, they're not the Catholic Incraptables.

And I think a lot of people when they're, when they're learning about this, they don't understand that difference. That just because the bodies will preserve us and it's an Incraptable by the Catholic definition. So I thought that was, that was very interesting. And with the preservation and the embalming techniques and the things that we do, modern day, a lot of bodies actually can be quite well preserved for by a while after death.

And when they do exhumations, exhum, exhum, exhum. For criminal cases or those kinds of things, oftentimes the bodies are still in remarkably good shape. It's quite amazing. This is everything we've been talking about.