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EPISODE · Jul 25, 2025 · 50 MIN

Inmate Experiences and Stories with Diane Kahn

from Experience by Design · host Diane Kahn, Gary David

Stories are the ways that we can relate our experiences to others. It is the most primary form of human communication, which makes it kind of ironic that people seem to be discovering the importance of storytelling. Through stories things become memorable, or more easily remembered. Growing up going to Catholic school, I might have a hard time remembering the Ten Commandments or the Beatitudes, I could remember the gist of the parables. A good story can be transformational, changing the ways that we look at the world and ourselves. The importance of story is at the center of my conversation with today’s guest Diane Kahn of the Humans of San Quentin. If you are not familiar, San Quentin is one of the state prisons in California. It houses approximately 4000 inmates, which is over its original capacity of 3,084. It is the state’s oldest facility, founded in 1852. In March of 2023, Governor Gavin Newsom announced the future transformation of the prison to focus on rehabilitation rather than just incarceration.Diane started Humans of San Quentin with a similar goal in mind. She has a background of an educator, which involved going to the University of San Francisco. That led to an opportunity to engage with inmates at San Quentin. Through that opportunity, she heard the stories of those behind the walls, and knew that she had to do what she could to bring them to the outside world. As she relates, the program aspires to educate and build compassion by sharing the lives of humans living behind bars. The inmates feel affirmed in realizing they have something worth saying, and that people want to learn about them. We also talk about her educational experiences of teaching in San Quentin, having an audience that wants to learn, and not having to compete with the distraction of electronics in the classroom. We explore how by demystifying inmates we can create programs and heal both victims and offenders.Finally, we talk about how the program is not in over 100 prisons in the US, as well as around the world, showing that there is a broader need to have people’s stories told and heard. Humans of San Quentin: https://humansofsanquentin.org/The Prison Podcast: https://humansofsanquentin.org/connections/the-prison-podcast/Diane Kahn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/diane-kahn-1a04b1b4/

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On this episode of Experience by Design, we welcome Diane Kahn of Humans of San Quentin to the show. Diane went from a background in education and into the San Quentin prison, where she has worked with inmates to bring their stories forward. This program has now grown to over 100 prisons in the United States and more worldwide. We talk about the importance of story telling as a way of healing and being seen. We explore her experiences teaching in a prison, helping prisoners come together through education, restorative justice, and inmate experiences. Finally we talk about bringing these stories to the outside world, and what we can learn from prison recipes of cooking in cells.

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